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Mr. McKerxax. Our contribution, as I remember, is about $1,000. 

 That has been so for many years. 



Mr. DiXGELL. One thousand ? 



Mr. McKerxax. That is right. 



Mr. DixGELL. What is the total budget? 



Mr. McKerxax. About $14,000, totaL 



Mr. DixGELL. What are the contributions? Can you submit to us 

 the contributions of each of the other nations? 



Mr. McKerxax. It is the same. 



Mr. DixGELL. That is the total budget ? 



Mr. McKerxax. That is the total, really, of the administrative bud- 

 get of the Commission. 



Xow, any research work that goes on is carried on by the whaling 

 nations themselves. 



Mr. Dixgell. ^Miat does the Commission do ? 



Mr. McKerxax. Well, the Commission itself, imder its terms of 

 reference, arranges for meetings and arranges for a discussion of the 

 conservation regulations, and publishes the catch of whales in some 

 detail. 



For example, in recent years, it has had a blue ribbon task force 

 of biometricians, one of whom is a scientist from the United States, 

 Dr. D. Chapman, a mathematician from the University of Washington. 



These people have analyzed the data, the catch data, and other 

 relevant scientific data that has been collected and provided by mem- 

 ber states to the Commission for many years, and they have estimated 

 the populations, the gro\^-th and death' and recruitment of the whale 

 stocks, and have estimated the maximum sustainable yield of the 

 stocks. 



Mr. Dixgell. Have the recommendations been accepted ? 



Mr. McKerxax. Xot entirely. 



Mr. Dixgell. Xot entirely, or not at all ? 



Mr. McKerxax. To some extent. It is impossible to say yes or no, 

 Mr. Chairman, because there has been some disagreement among the 

 scientists. And with tliis disagreement, there have been essentially 

 compromises within the Commission. 



Mr. Dixgell. Somebody compromised the blue whale to death, as 

 I sen it. 



Mr. ]McKerxax'. That is true. There is no question about that. 



There was a verj' serious neglect of conser^-ation in the case of the 

 blue whaie, xery serious. 



Mr. Dixgell. I sent a letter to Secretary Rogers on September 3. 

 requesting information on the jwlicy asf>ects of the International 

 "\Mialing Commission, and so forth. 



I requested information, for example, on what efforts have been 

 made by or through the State Department to develop international 

 arrangements for the protection of (a) walruses, (b) seals, sea lions 

 and sea elephants, other than the Alaska fur seal, (c) polar bears, and 

 (d) sea otters. 



I asked what discussions had been held in conjunction with the 

 planning of the 1972 Stockholm Conference as to the environmental 

 implications, or lack thereof, associated with the protection of marine 

 mammals. 



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