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Mr. Pollock. They are not the Pribilof seals and we at no time take 

 the babies. 



Mr. AxDERSox. I notice you say the skinning of live seals is never 

 done in the Pribilof s. 



Is this being done anywhere. Mr. Pollock ? 



Mr. Pollock. I am not aware of it. We have heard these criticisms 

 made by a few individuals and we do not do that. 



Mr. AxDERSox. They are the only questions I have, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. DixGELL. Mr. Potter? 



Mr. Potter. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Pollock, under what authority does the Department of Com- 

 merce presently regulate whaling ? 



Mr. Pollock. It is under the 1956 act. as amended, by Reorganiza- 

 tion Plan Xo. -4 of 1970. 



Mr. Potter. What species of whales do you feel you have authority 

 to regulate? 



Mr. Pollock. We have the Whaling Convention Act of 1949 that we 

 formerly had. the Bureau of Commercial Fisheries had in the Depart- 

 ment of Interior before it was transferred. 



Mr. Potter. What species of whale do you consider that you have 

 authority to regulate ? 



Mr. Pollock. Well, we feel that we have authority over all the 

 whales and we feel that this includes the porpoise and the dolphin, not 

 the fish dolphin, but also seals and sea lions. 



Mr. Potter. As to the seals or the sea lions you get that authority 

 from the Seal Act. I presume. 



Mr- Pollock. The Fish and Wildlife Act of 1956; fur seals are im- 

 der the Fur Seal Act of 1966. 



Mr. Potter. "\Miat is your 1972 fiscal year budget for research? 



Mr. Pollock. Did you say the 1970 ? 



Mr. Potter. The 1972 budget, the current fiscal year. 



Mr. Pollock. May I provide it for the record? I do not think I 

 have it. 



Mr. Potter. My impression is that it is in the order of about $65,000. 



Mr. Pollock. That is very close. It is a little less than $65,000. That 

 is for whales only. 



Mr. DixGELL. If you please, and if counsel would yield at this point, 

 would you furnish it ? 



Mr. Pollock. Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. I am advised there is an- 

 other $50,000 for porpoises. 



^Ir. DiXGELL. Would you please give us a statement of your research 

 programs on mammals under your jurisdiction for the past 5 years, 

 together with the research programs that you have engaged in ? 



You do not need to do it now, but will' you furnish it for purposes 

 of the record ? 



(The information follows:) 



NATIONAL MARINE FISHERIESSERVICE— MARINE MAMMAL FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEARS 1968 THROUGH 1972 



Fur seal Whale Porpoise 



■^1972 - $292,000 $64,000 $65,000 



1971 ' - 292.000 64,000 45,000 



1970 -" --- 265,000 64.000 40,000 



1969 '.' 268,000 71,000 



1968 - 263,000 66,000 



67-T65 O — 71 16 



