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The fii"st of the year, we compared the Queen Mat'y tog^either and we 

 had the old netting and he had the new and we both made sets on 

 schools of porpoise aaid tuna at the same time. He was thi-ough an hour 

 before we were. 



Out of 1,500 porix)ises, Harold only had four porpoises left in the 

 nett after backing down and these were removed by hand. 



We, making a set on another school, finished backing down and 

 we had 50 or GO porpoise that got tangled. AVhen they are tangled, we 

 drop back down to help the porpoise out and save the ones still alive. 



One point I am ti-ying to make, the fishermen will do anything to 

 save the porpoise. We always have and always will, but I think tliis 

 new net has been the salvation for us and I think we have the pix>blem 

 licked. 



As late as this last Wednesday, I talked to my cousin and he is 

 making a movie on this backing down. The movie is — or shows that 

 he set on a school of 2,000 porpoise and after backing down, he had 

 four porpoise left and those were taken out alive. So out of 2,000 ]X)r- 

 ix)ise, not one was killed. 



The one point I am trying to make is I feel in a year the whole fleet 

 will convert over and everybody will have the new net. It takes about 6 

 months for delivery. National Marine Terminal has ordered this 

 Av ebbing and they have 100 bales and it takes two bales to make this 

 adaptation and they will have that available in a short time. 



We have changed our net over and I feel in a shoit time that the 

 whole fleet Avill adapt this new technique. 



I also talked to my vessel this past Wednesday. They have the web- 

 bing on this trip and they say it is like the difference between day and 

 night. It has been a real help. 



We have the problem licked. I say this is one thing the fishermen 

 always try to do is save the ix)rpoise caught because without them we 

 would not be in business. 



Mr. FixANDO. Mr. Chairman, we have a film here that was produced 

 by one of the canners. It was filmed in 1960 and it is a vei-^^ short film, 

 but T think it is a dated one. 



We will leave this film with the committee. We hope that when the 

 Ketni J/, returns home with film to have the film available to you within 

 a month. Then I think you will be able to see what was done in 1960 — 

 where actually in 1960 aboard this vessel the fellows were in the net 

 manually lifting the ix)rix>ises out. 



We think in 1971 you will see the vast change that has occurred and 

 we believe the success of this new modification will be shown in the 

 new Medina net. 



^Ir. DixGELL. I know the committee is grateful to you for the very 

 helpful statement. 



We will certainly receive the film that you are alluding to. 



Did you want to shoAv the other film this morning? 



Mr. Felaxdo. I do not think it is necessary. I see you have a long 

 witness list and I think there is a narration in it. 



This film has been shown all over the counti*y for the last 11 years 

 and what is available is just a 3-minute jwrtion. 



I think at the committee's convenience you can see the film at that 

 time. There is a narration that explains exactly what is going on. 



