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Mr. Pelly. Well, if you are going to kill them I do not see that any- 

 body could object to the most humane method possible. 



I am hopeful, maybe, that the question could be answered by some 

 Government officials or scientists. 



I will ask some other witness to supply that or if you could supply 

 for the record, it would be appreciated. 



Mr. Denney. In regard to mink farming, sir, I am not that well 

 briefed on that situation. 



Mr. Pelly. Thank you. 



IMr. Dingell. Mr. Kyros ? 



Mr. Kyros. No questions. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. de la Garza ? 



Mr. DE LA Garza. No questions. 



Mr. DixGELL. Mr. Anderson ? 



Mr. Anderson. I want to commend you on a very fine statement. 



You say in your second paragraph that ocean mammals should be 

 not only protected but properly managed on sound principles. 



I am sure that you have read H.R. 10420. 



Do you feel this concept applies to your remarks here ? 



Mr. Denney. INIr. Anderson. I do feel that of the marine mammals 

 legislation which has been proposed, H.R. 10420 comes closer to pro- 

 viding for comprehensive management of the species involved. 



Mr. Anderson. Are there any particular parts of the bill that you 

 feel could be improved and if so, do you have any suggestions that you 

 would like to make at this time or later so when we try to make this a 

 finished product, we can have your counsel ? 



Mr. Denney. We have no specific recommendations to the altering 

 or the wording of the bill. 



Mr. Anderson. Thank you, very much. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. Potter ? 



Mr. Potter. No questions. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Let me ask a question, if you please, ]\Ir. Denney. 



You are aware of the fact that the committee has a series of bills 

 before us, H.R. 6554 and H.R. 10420. As I followed your statement, 

 I do not note that you have expressed any particular preference 

 between those bills. Would you care, on behalf of the American 

 Humane Association, to express a preference on these bills in light of 

 your statement? 



Mr. Denney. Part of my answer to Mr. Anderson I think would 

 apply, Mr. Dingell, in that by specifically not mentioning bills in our 

 presentation, it would imply, of course, that the provisions of H.R. 

 10420 meet for the most part what we would expect in a marine mam- 

 mal protection bill. 



Mr. DiNGELL. You said "for the most part." I think that is impor- 

 tant. 



I think it is equally important that you should have said that the 

 provisions of H.R. 10420 meet the views and recommendations of the 

 American Humane Association. 



Would you want to indicate to us what "for the most part" means 

 so we can have a full understanding of the position of yourself and the 

 American Humane Association? 



Mr. Denney. I think I am safe in saying that we are in agreement 

 basically, but that there are other concerns, I think, or perhaps ques- 



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