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itself. Initially, the moratorium is necessary to allow certain species 

 near depletion, to regain strength and to allow the necessary work of 

 animal population counts and behavioral studies to proceed. After a 

 period of at least 5 years, some relaxation for scientific and legitimate 

 commercial purposes may be allowed, under the close scrutiny of the 

 Commission. And new take limits must be set in a highly species specific 

 manner. Certainly, there should be no more slaughter for frivolous 

 products which easily can be provided by other means. The mora- 

 torium on all species should only be relinquished when the animal 

 taker can prove to the Commission that his use is important and 

 nonendangerin^. 



Finally, I'd like to offer to the members of this committee, an invita- 

 tion to visit either as a body or individually, the project we've under- 

 way at Seamamm in Florida. We're proud of the steps we're taking 

 toward the exploration of the sea. There is an unfortunate history to 

 the settlements of frontiers by the United States; a history charac- 

 terized by destruction, genocide and bloodshed. This need not continue 

 to be the case as men enter the sea. I invite you gentlemen to see for 

 yourselfs how successfully men can win the companionship and as- 

 sistance of these animals. 



I respectfully urge you to suggest to the Congress, enactment of 

 H.R. 10420, with the addition of a 5-year moratorium and an aban- 

 donment of the tuna industry productive definition. 



Mr. DiNGELL. INIr. Horstman, you have given the committee very 

 impressive testimony and the movie you have shown us has been a 

 very moving thing, 



I think your guidance in this area can be of extraordinary value. 



Mr. Anderson ? 



Mr. Anderson. No questions. 



I do want to commend Mr. Horstman on a fine presentation. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. Potter? 



]Mr. Potter. Mr. Horstman, do you consider that this moratorium 

 which you have proposed would create problems for the operators 

 or zoos or public display operations which are now in existence? 



Mr. Horstman. Yes, Mr. Potter, I do. 



Prior to designing some type of a philosophy at Seamamm con- 

 cerning legislation we could live with, I talked to a number of scien- 

 tists and a number of exhibitors throughout the country, talking basic- 

 ally about the idea of a moratorium prior to the implementation of a 

 permit system. 



I think one of the most significant things I heard during that ex- 

 pedition for information was that the large exhibitors expressed a 

 fear that even a short 5-year moratorium would work a hardship on 

 them because of their high mortality rate. 



They are just not able to keep their animals alive long enough to 

 survive a 5-year moratorium. 



I think that is a question you should ask someone from one of the 

 marinelands. They will be here to testify and I think that question 

 could be asked to see if they agree with me. 



Mr. Potter. What is the average life expectancy of these animals?. 



Mr. Horstman. For porpoises in the wild state, it could be 25 or 30 

 years. 



