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Thank you, Mr. Chaiirman, 



Mr. DiNGELL. Mr. Walsh, the committee is grateful to you for a 

 very helpful statement. 

 Mr. Anderson ? 



Mr. Anderson. Thank vou, Mr. Chairman. 



I do want to commend you and thank you for your kind remarks 

 on our bill. 



There is a question I have on page 8, because it seemed to be a little 

 different than the source of statistics. 



On page 3 you are talking about the baby seals. 

 You say many of the pups of these seals jfind their way into the U.S. 

 markets and that we share responsibility for decimating the once 

 plentiful herds by allowing these skins to be processed or sold in the 

 United States. 



You heard people in the busJiness say they are not finding their way 

 here and are not being processed here. 



Do you have evidence to sustain your position ? 



Mr. Walsh. Yes ; I have been attending the Canadian seal hunt in 

 the Gulf of St. Lawrence since 1966, and we have worked to improve 

 that seal hunt, as a great deal of cruelty did occur in the killing of 

 the seals. The Canadian Government appointed a committee made up 

 of scientific and commercial interests and humane conservationists. 



At this committee, Mr. Dean Fisher had said that a lot of the skins 

 of harp seals, I am not saying the pups, but the harp seal skins are 

 coming into the U.S. market. 



Mr. Stanley Dudka, of the Division of Enforcement, of the Cana- 

 dian Ministrv of Fisheries, said the skins were going into New York. 

 I have talked to somebody who will be testifying on the 23d and I 

 have agreed to research this and provide the pertinent data that I 

 have obtained for testimony on the 23d. 



Mr. Anderson. I want to understand what you are saying. You sav 

 a great deal of emotion is aroused by the killing of the defenseless seal 

 pups and in the next line you say many of the pups of these seals are 

 brought in. Are vou talking about the baby seals ? 



Mr. Walsh. We are talking about the seals generally, harp and 

 hood seals, the Canadian seals. 



Mr. Anderson. You feel you can show evidence there are baby seals 

 coming into the United States today ? 



Mr. Walsh. I will attempt myself to gather this information from 

 the Canadian Government. 



Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 

 Mr. Dingell. Thank you. 

 Mr. Potter? 



Mr. Potter. No questions. 

 Mr. Dingell. Mr. Rountree ? 



Mr. RouNTREE. Following up on Mr. Anderson's question, the next 

 paragraph indicates that vou say a total ban on the importation of 

 sealskins into the United States will help guarantee the much needed 

 protection for these species. 



Earlier testimonv indicated that an import ban would not be at all 

 effective to accomplish this. 



