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vention in which the final word does rest with the Secretary of the 

 Interior may not be the type of approach. 



Mr. Pelly. I can see the point you are making, that there are differ- 

 ences between States and their problems with regard to marine mam- 

 mals and, therefore, you would like to pro^dde for flexibility so that 

 on^ State could do like Oregon does now. protect your sea lions and 

 California allows for control by the fishermen. 



Mr. Lenzini. Tharf; is correct. I think the need is flexibility. 



I think that is the key word. 



As H.R. 10420 presently stands, despite the presence of section 109, 

 I^o. get the clear implication that it is fine to have a cooperation 

 wih the States so long as the Secretary of the Interior will tell them 

 whSt to do, in effect, and so this is not the kind of cooperation I think 

 that would be desirable. 



A situation where the State and Federal gove^ftment could be part- 

 ners in this thing would be desirable. ^ 



Mr. Pft.t.y. Thank you, Mr. Chairma.n. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Thaiik you, Mr. Pelly. 



Mr. Kyros? 



Mr. Kyros. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one or two questions. 



May I ask if you have representatives here in Washington? 



Mr. McKean. Yes. 



Mr. Kyros. Do any of your Washington representatives represent 

 theFoukeFurCo? 



Mr. McKean. The only Washington representative that the Inter- 

 national Association has is Mr. Lenzini, our legal counsel and he does 

 not represent them to my knowledge. 



Mr. Lexzini. I am not a witness, Mr. Kyros, but our firm does repre- 

 sent the International Association of Game, Fish, and Conservation 

 Commission. 



We have also for a number of years represented the Fouke Co. 



Mr. Kyros. I^t me quickly ask you a question about the polar bear. 

 Time is short and I am sure the"^ chairman wants to question other 

 witnesses. 



The polar bear is still being hunted by airplane in Alaska. Is that 

 right? 



Mr. McKean. It is my understanding that the State of Alaska has 



prohibited this. 



You have the Alaskan representative here and it would be better 

 to let him answer that question, I am sure. 



Mr. Kyros. You do not know then, about polar bear hunting in 



Alaska? 



Mr. McKean. I have some data on polar bear hunting in Alaska. 

 Your specific question as to whether or not persons are permitted to 

 hunt polar bear with an airplane I would prefer to defer to the repre- 

 sentative from Alaska. 



Mr. Kyros. All right. Do you know how many bears are killed 

 legally in Alaska each year ? 



Mr! McKe.\n. I would prefer to have the representative from 

 Alaska, Mr. Bums, answer that question. 



The data I have on this is rather general and he could give you 

 specifics and I am sure that this would be much betteir than me 

 attempting to answer your question. 



