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Mrs. Stevens. I represent Xew Bedford. The history of its interest 

 in whaling and the situation that confrrmts us today, there is aill one 

 firm left in Xew Bedford that uses the oil from small whales to treat 

 delicate instruments. 



It is apparently a very rare oil and <me that is quite essraitial. 



Mrs. Stevzxs. TVell. I am informed that while that oil is very good 

 it is not irreplaceable and. in fact. .Secretary Hickel stated at the time 

 he put the last of the conmiercial species of whales on the endangerwi 

 species list that, in fact, there was nothing except the meat which is 

 the way he put it. that could not be synthesized or otherwise replaced 

 ~n that* I believe that your firm will find that they can replace it. 



Just for example the National .Science Teachers Association where 

 we had a booth concerning the saving of whales, one of the teachM^ 

 - lid that a friend in Colsrate-Palmolive had just told her that I always 

 used to buy ambergris simply because it was on the market and now 

 they could not buy it because of Hickel's ban and they used a synthetic 

 and it was exactly just as good. 



I cannot give you the name of what the substitute would be. but I 

 :im certain it is not soms to do the firm any harm to change. 



Mr. Keith. A different subject, but related to the^ same problem. 



I had a phone call frtMn my daughter last night. She is intrigued 

 with these advertisements in the Boston papers. She is looking for 

 -ome trained seals and will research this matter. 



Do you happen to know if in the Boston area, they are using 

 humane care for their inmates ? 



Mrs. Stevexs. I am sorry to say that I am not familiar with the 

 Boston aquariiun but if you would like me to check it out. I would 

 be deliffhted to. 



Mr. Kepth. I would appreciate it. I know the people who have 

 funded the prc^ram. the Stone family largely, are very fine people 

 who are interested in educaticm and who have done charitable and 

 ducational work. I am sure they would like you to comply. 



I believe it is a unique situation, along the entire eastern seaboard at 

 least. 



Mrs. Stevens. I also think you might wi^ to check with Mr. 

 Horstman of the Sea Mammal Motivational Institute. 



I think you missed his testimony but I believe he could be very 

 helpful to vou. 



Mr. KErra. Xow. I note that you have an amendment which cer- 

 tainlv meets with my approval, at least at first glance to sectic«i 107 

 ( b ) . page 12. line IS.' method of capture, supervision, and add the fol- 

 lowinsr : care, housing, and treatment. 



Have you any '"f or instances" that have not been put into the record 

 and that* would" add to our motivation ? 



^Irs. Stevens. Yes : there are bad cases of mistreatment. 



For example, I have seen a dolphin confined in a pool really not 

 much larger than this little area in front of me just able to swim around 

 and around and he would look out. look at you with such a feeling 

 eve that it was reaUv a verv unnerving thing. 



' That was in Florida, Mr. Keith, and there are examples of that, sdl 

 over the countrv. 



The magazine "Animals" which is edited by Mr. SidweU is an 

 international magazine and has just come out with an editMial ob- 



