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Chicken Creek, this watershed near Hoonah is highly visible to 

 cruise ship passengers and wilderness tourists who watch whales 

 off Point Adolphus. It is also important to local subsistence users. 



And finally, Upper Tenakee Inlet, this area is important to local 

 subsistence hunters as well as kayakers and other recreational 

 users. It is also important brown bear habitat. 



The recreation, subsistence, wildlife, and wilderness values of 

 these areas far outweigh their value as a short-lived source of pulp 

 for KPC. AWL's Honorary Chairman, Former President Jimmy 

 Carter, recently said this is a critical time for Alaska's wild lands 

 and the American people must reaffirm our commitment to their 

 protection. 



With this firmly in mind, AWL strongly opposes H.R. 3659. 

 Thank you. 



The Chairman. Brian, in your testimony you mentioned Jimmy 

 Carter. Just out of curiosity, Mary, have you been to the Tongass? 



Ms. MUNSON. Yes, I have. 



The Chairman. How long did you spend there? 



Ms. MuNSON. I spent several days there. I was 



The Chairman. Days. When? 



Ms. Munson. Well, actually it was a couple weeks. 



The Chairman. When? 



Ms. Munson. Eight years ago. 



The Chairman. Eight years ago. 



Ms. Munson. Yes, it was being clear cut then. 



The Chairman. Do you- 



Ms. Munson. I was taken by the Forest Service out 



The Chairman. Have you read the TLMP proposal? 



Ms. Munson. Yes, I have — well, I have — it is quite thick, but I 

 looked through it. 



The Chairman. Have you read it, though? Both times I heard 

 about Honker Divide. Do you know that is in the TLMP proposal? 

 Does that mean that you are going to file lawsuits against the For- 

 est Service under TLMP? 



Ms. Munson. No, the TLMP — that is just a proposal right now. 

 It is not 



The Chairman. Under TLMP, that is part of the timber base 

 which they are recommending. 



Ms. Munson. Right, recommending. We are still able to submit 

 our comments about it. That is 



The Chairman. If they make the decision, what are you going to 

 do? 



Ms. Munson. Well, when they make the decision, hopefully they 

 will incorporate our comments in it. 



The Chairman. Oh, comments? 



Ms. Munson. Yes, our comments will suggest- 



The Chairman. Comments don't mean a thing because 



Ms. Munson. Comments can make changes 



The Chairman, [continuing] — they could cut that — if they make 

 a decision to cut the area, what are you going to do? 



Ms. Munson. Well, hopefully we are going to be asking in our 

 comments for them to change the preferred alternative, so it is 



The Chairman. If they haven't changed it and they put it in, now 

 what are you going to do? 



