available for purchasing senior water rights in key areas. There are 

 some waters that are already dried up and there are some areas that are 

 heavily impacted by people. People want that recreation. Why not 

 provide mineral severance money or a general fund money or something to 

 actually acquire some senior water rights in these locations? Give the 

 people some of that water back. 



Operating plans of existing water projects can be amended. That's 

 another thing right there. You talk about providing some water below the 

 reservoir and people say, "You can't do that." It's in a three-state 

 compact or it's in the operating plan or it's under a congressional action. 

 These things can be changed, even if it takes an act of Congress, they 

 can be changed. And finally state and local planning can help provide 

 water where it's most needed. There're some areas better suited for 

 industrial development than others. There're some areas better suited for 

 agriculture than others and some of these are even in downstream states. 

 But if that's where the water can most effectively be used, why not? 

 That's blasphemy I guess. 



In summary, there already is a western water crisis. Fish, wildlife 

 and recreational needs suffer most from the lack of public involvement and 

 the water planning and allocation process. In most states water is the 

 only public-owned resource. . .natural resource. . .which passes into private 

 ownership with no public compensation, often to the detriment of public 

 interests. This situation can be corrected whereby public demands are 

 given proper consideration in future allocations of water. Public and 

 political support is going to be the key, and again, the media is going to 

 have to take the lead in generating that support. With good legislation 

 and land use planning, all historic water rights can be protected and 

 water will still be available for future development and resource needs. 

 Thank you. 



LARRY PETERMAN : Next, I'd like to introduce Fred Eiserman of Energy 

 Systems Transport, Inc., or ETSI. Fred's a former fisheries man with 

 Wyoming's Fish and Game. 



FRED EISERMAN : Thank you Larry. Larry told me to talk fast so I'm 

 going to try it. First off, John you did an excellent job. The irony of 

 this situation is two years ago I might have been up here attempting to 

 give a talk somewhat the same as John's, and John is doing an excellent 

 job. He took my spot in Wyoming and since that time, with the young 

 blood, I think we are moving ahead in a good direction on this. 



Well first off I've got to tell you where I'm coming from. I've 

 actually jumped from the frying pan into the fire. In days-gone-by I used 

 to debate with the agriculture people on minimum stream flows and channel- 

 ization. I've debated with U.S. Steel on water quality, Bureau of 

 Reclamation on minimum pools, Texaco and Standard on cleanups on the 

 Plat, municipalities for sharing water, greenbelt areas from developers, 

 and I thought well, I think I'll get out of this situation. I'll get with 

 industry, I'll infiltrate and maybe attack this problem from the other side 



