The fourth card comes up king of spades and this would be a 

 program that would adequately compensate private landowners with 

 incentives for them to produce and allow legal harvesting of the wildlife 

 surpftjs. 



You have now been dealt a pretty good bluffing hand. You could 

 hit a pair, spade flush, a straight flush, straight, the unbeatable royal 

 flush or you could end up with the king-high nothing. 



Now the last card is down and dirty and that's all you're gonna 

 get. But like any poker game, the amount won or lost depends on how 

 you play the hand. The essentials for hunting in the future include 

 two elements as I see it. We must have hunters and we must have 

 wildlife to hunt. To have hunters, we need to improve their image. To 

 improve their image we must teach respect for private and public land 

 and the resources pursued. To teach this we need mandatory training 

 programs. For these to become a reality, we need the support of 

 lawmakers, which means we cannot have mass opposition. To have 

 huntable wildlife populations we need habitat. To have habitat we need 

 the combined support of all wildlife interests. To have this support we 

 need a broad-based wildlife program. To broaden wildlife programs we 

 need an equally broad revenue base. To obtain this we need the 

 support of lawmakers, which means we cannot have mass opposition. 

 You will notice that on both issues we come back to the same point, 

 which must be our ace in the hole. We cannot afford to create 

 mass opposition . To do so, means that you just drew the duce of clubs 

 and a bluffing hand is all you have left. 



I started out this little talk with a cartoon philosophy and now to 

 get myself out of this rat-maze, we'll end it the same way. If your 

 fifth card really does mandate a bluff, my only advise is put yourself 

 in this guys place and hang in there old buddy. Thank you very 

 much. 



JIM ZUMBO : Thank you Dale. That was an excellent talk. There's 

 another slight change. I told you before that C.B. Rich could not be 

 here. We are going to have a replacement. 



Now I'm going to introduce Bill Maloit who is a supervisor of 

 outfitting for the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks. He's 

 going to give us a little bit of information on outfitting and policy on 

 Forest Service lands in Montana. 



BILL MALOIT : Thank you Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen. 



Casey up to bat. I'm a substitute at the last minute. I was a member 

 of the committee on this task force that worked on these concerns and I 

 find myself with a few notes, hastily written on a napkin to refer to. 



