tourism industry. Our industry is part of the free enterprise system 

 and free enterprise, as you know, is what our country is based on. 

 I'd like to talk just a little bit about free enterprise. In fact, I'd like 

 to challenge you to believe in free enterprise. Because it does matter 

 that you believe in it, understand it and know what it is and is not. 

 Very simply put, free enterprise happens when the freedom of people is 

 recognized as an inherent right stemming from the Creator. And that 

 freedom is safeguarded as ours in the structure of the government 

 organization. In the free enterprise system, the manufacturer or 

 businessman owns his tools, risks his own money, sets his own prices, 

 makes his own decisions and makes or loses money, depending on how 

 well he provides the public with a product or service which it wants, at 

 a price that it is willing to pay. Unless tht company does something 

 criminal or violates the public interest, the government should leave him 

 alone to pursue his own interests. And this is regulating right back to 

 our industry and it has something to do with the energy crunch that 

 we're faced with. We do have regulations. We do have too many 

 regulations and I don't think that there's any industry regulated more 

 than the outfitting industry. We catch it from everywhere. We work 

 with the managing agencies and we continue to work with them, solving 

 the problems that we have. The only real alternative that we have to 

 free enterprise is socialism or in the extreme, communism. Under these 

 systems, the government owns the tools and factories, sets the prices, 

 employs the workers and provides the public with a product at a price 

 which the government set. As you can see from the energy crunch 

 that we're faced with today, the government is trying to set the price. 

 But between free enterprise and outright socialism is the condition 

 towards which the United States is now gravitating--that of a constantly 

 increasing governmental interference in business, where government 

 sets more and more regulations, makes more and more decisions, owns 

 more and more of the businesses and slowly squeezes the corporation 

 out of the picture. The crucial way that an economic system must be 

 judged is by its productive output. What does it provide for the 

 people? What level of life does it make possible for them? Compared on 

 that basis, free enterprise is clearly superior to alternative economic 

 systems. And one thought I would like to leave with you. "It is not 

 what the government can do for the people, but what the government 

 can do for themselves." Thank you. 



JIM ZUMBO : Thank you very much Jack. 



Okay. I'd like to ask Norm to step up and give us a few final 

 words about President Carter's trip down the river. And then we'll 

 ask for questions for the whole panel. 



NORM GUTH : Jim, you're kind of putting me on the spot here. I 

 think probably because we have quite a few people in the audience and 

 as well as the panel from the Forest Service here, I'd like to tell a 



