GUTH : They would be in that respect. In that respect they, if 



they wish to divide it--subdivide it for instance--and develop the 

 corridor or the quarter-mile each side of the river, there would 

 probably be some problems doing anything like that. However, if they 

 wanted to sell it, which they would be doing if they developed, there is 

 also money appropriated to by fee title to that land and this has been 

 done in many cases. They also buy scenic easements. They'll go in 

 and buy our land at the value that you have it inflated to or that it is 

 inflated to for development purposes, less the amount that it's worth 

 for pasture and then it remains in pasture status. This has been done 

 in several cases. 



QUESTION: Jack Wemple, you were quoted in the Montana Standard a 

 few weeks agon as saying something to the effect that there was 

 proposed legislaton to oulaw commercial big game hunting on some tracts 

 of public land. Was that story accurate and if so, what did it refer to? 



WEMPLE: This came from a letter that we intercepted from an 



organization called Wildlife Watch out of Arvada, Colorado, and it's 

 quite a lengthy letter. I didn't bring it with me. That was one of the 

 statements in there, that there was legislation pending in Congress to 

 abolish guiding of big game hunters on public land. 



QUESTION: Did it mention who was writing that legislation? 



WEMPLE: No, it did not. It said the legislation was pending. 



QUESTION: I would like for Jack Wemple to address this thing on the 

 Sagebrush Rebellion and how it might effect the loss of access and how 

 this might effect the outfitters of the state. 



WEMPLE: Well, I feel that if the Sagebrush Rebellion is passed, 



we're going to lose outfitting as it's known today. We won't have any 

 access. We're having a tough enough time getting access now. 

 Landowners have locked up half of Montana and we want to work with 

 landowners. In fact, I would like to see it to where the landowners, 

 Cattlemn's Association and what-not come to our conventions and work 

 with us. Maybe this is going to be a special interest thing, but maybe 

 we can prove to them that we can go on their land and take care of 

 their land, that we're not a renegade or something like that. Maybe we 

 can gain from it. But as far as the Sagebrush Rebellion is proposed 

 today, I think we'd lose, definitely. 



QUESTION : Mr. Maloit, in your discussion you were talking about 

 overhauling the Forest Service regulations concerning outfitting and 

 what not. What specifically is an outfitter going to buy when he gets 

 an outfitting license with the Forest Service? What guarantees does he 

 get? What does he buy when he pays those fees? 



MALOIT : An outfitter receives a special use permit to establish his 



camp on national forest lands. This has to be renewed annually. 

 There is a clause in the manual that states it can be put on tenure for 



