One of those gentlemen in the B2 helicopters was Dick Randall. 

 Dick Randall was a very controversial figure. I think a lot of 

 woolgrowers know who he is. The lives in Rock Springs, Wyoming and 

 most people with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service know who Dick 

 Randall is and most people do not like Dick Randall for the philosophies 

 that he has currently taken coyote control. Randall was one of those 

 government trappers for ten years and he quit his government career 

 as a trapper after he had a mid-air collision with another airplane. He 

 was shooting coyotes from a fixed wing. His pilot was killed. That 

 was his third crack-up in an airplane so he quit. And Randall told me 

 "One of the reasons that I'd like to see some changes in coyote policy 

 is," he said, "because I got damn sick and tired of sitting in an 

 airplane with that door open ladling strychnine pellets out the door. 

 Just throwing them out on public land, for whoever would eat them. 

 Let's get on to 1975. Former President Ford authorized a new type of 

 coyote getter which is called the M44. Now, in 1972, former President 

 Nixon banned the old getters. How many of you here know what a 

 getter is? Okay. Some of you do not. The old getter was propelled 

 by a 38 cartridge. It's a pipe that sticks in the ground with the 

 cartridge inside and there is some kind of wad on top, smeared with 

 some kind of a meat which has got a lot of scent to it. An animal 

 comes along, tugs on the meat, the 38 fires, propels a load of sodium 

 cyanide crystals in his mouth, it turns into hydrocyanic acid and the 

 animal dies. However, it was outlawed by President Nixon's ban. 



Okay, in '75 President Ford said you can have getters but he puts 

 26 constraints on the getters and that's still legal today. If you were 

 to set a l\/144 today you have got to set them so many feet from a creek 

 and have lo have signs all around them and you've have got to 

 do... well, it's almost impossible to set an IV144 these days, but they are 

 still authorized in some circumstances. Now I'm going to get back to 

 the getter in a minute. 



So to date, 1080 is still banned and we heard some new 

 developments that I didn't even know that Don just mentioned about 

 some more research into 1080 and I think that's good because I would 

 like to see more research on it. I've got some chronology here that has 

 already been covered by both gentlemen so I won't go into that. 



Okay, 1080 is probably the central theme of this whole issue and 

 I'd like to point out something that the woolgrowers in Idaho did and 

 you have to understand, I speak for sportsmen. We are a sportsmen's 

 magazine so that's what we're concerned with. In 1978 the Idaho 

 Woolgrowers Association dreamed up a plan to try to get more support 

 for 1080 and this is what the sportsmen read, "This land is closed due 

 to predator pollution. No trespassing. This privately owned land is 

 closed in protest of government intervention in private enterprise. 

 Until we are allowed to take necessary action to protect livestock, you 

 are denied access to over two million acres of private land. 

 Trespassers will be prosecuted. If you would like to regain your 

 privilege to enjoy this land, please write to the Secretary of the 

 Interior." And then it says, "Over two million acres of private land 

 will be closed to public access September 1, 1978. Closure of this land 



