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ning process look at the appropriate allocations for those lands, 

 too? 



The real issue before this committee, in my opinion, is what can 

 we do to assure that federal funding for multi-use management in 

 the Tongass is expended wisely? We do not need to prescribe micro- 

 management, and we do not need to withdraw additional lands 

 from timber base to accomplish that objective. The real issue is in- 

 creasing permanent wilderness or undeveloped areas in the Ton- 

 gass and not the budget, and I want to know about that up front, 

 when we start into these hearings. 



Thank you. 



Senator Bumpers. Thank you. 



Senator Murkowski. 



Senator Murkowski. Just for the record for Senator Wirth's ben- 

 efit, the Tongass is not burned. 



Senator Bumpers. Thank you. 



Senator Wirth. I was not suggesting if I might, that the Tongass 

 was burned. The product coming out of the Tongass becomes pulp 

 and paper and as it is burned or decomposes, that carbon goes up 

 into the atmosphere. If, in fact, the trees are used as logs, then the 

 carbon is maintained there. It depends on what happens to the 

 product coming out of the Tongass. 



Senator Murkowski. I wanted to make sure that he understood 

 that it was not what they were doing in South America where they 

 burned the slash and the timber. We do not burn any of our timber 

 or slash. 



Senator Bumpers. Congressman Young. 



STATEMENT OF HON. DON YOUNG, U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM 



ALASKA 



Mr. Young. Mr. Chairman, in deference to your comments and 

 to the witnesses that have traveled far from Alaska, I will submit 

 my written statement. I apologize to my staff who have written an 

 excellent statement. I hope you have time to read it. Unfortunately 

 your time is short. 



Senator Bumpers. Is there something in it that Senator Murkow- 

 ski has not covered? 



Mr. Young. There are quite a few things. 



Senator Wirth had the privilege of serving in the House, and I 

 was happy to see him leave. Now I hear he is talking about burn- 

 ing the Tongass Forest. I hope he believes in recycling. 



Pulp goes into medicine which does not burn. Pulp goes into 

 papers which we recycle. Pulp does not go into the atmosphere. We 

 will go into this later in scientific reports. This does not affect the 

 hot house syndrome that he is speaking of. If there is any effect of 

 the hot house syndrome, it is the hot air I hear coming from cer- 

 tain members of the committees on both sides of the aisle. 



Mr. Chairman, I would suggest we talk about people. I have 

 fought this battle since 1980 — I believe 1976 — and the legislation 

 that Senator Murkowski and Senator Stevens have introduced, I 

 believe the most realistic approach to this issue, the legislation in- 

 troduced by Congressman Mrazek and the Senator from Colorado is 

 the legislation that has been contrived, written, and promoted by 



