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Senator Wirth. Mr. Laschever, thank you very much, and please 

 give my personal greetings to the governor. Despite our disagree- 

 ments on this and some other issues, he is a very engaging and 

 very able public servant, and we are delighted that he is there. 

 Thank you very much. 



Mr. Laschever. I will pass that along. 



Senator Wirth. I will turn over the baton to Senator Murkowski. 

 Thank you very much. 



Senator Murkowski [presiding]. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I 

 have no questions of this witness. 



With that I would say, Mr. Laschever, you got off pretty easy. 



I believe that we have a panel currently. I think it would be in 

 order to bring the entire panel up. First of all, Mr. Larry Edwards, 

 President of the Board of Directors of the Southeastern Alaska 

 Conservation Council from Juneau, Alaska. Good morning, Mr. Ed- 

 wards. It is still morning. 



I would ask that Mr. Don Finney, General Manager of the 

 Alaska Loggers Association, Ketchikan, join Mr. Edwards; 



Accompanied by Mr. William H. Banzhaf, if that is the correct 

 pronunciation. Executive Vice President, Society of American For- 

 esters, Bethesda, Maryland; 



Accompanied by Mr. Gerald Gray, Director of Resource Policy, 

 American Forestry Association, Washington, DC; 



Accompanied by Mr. David A. Anderson, Southeast Regional Su- 

 pervisor for the Division of Wildlife Conservation, Alaska Depart- 

 ment of Fish and Game, Juneau, Alaska. 



The staff is moving around desperately your name tags. 



Lastly, Dr. Jerry Franklin. 



I think you are going to have to move them around again. 

 Ma'am. Mr. Franklin is the last witness, and he is on the other 

 end. 



[Pause.] 



Senator Murkowski. Okay, you can start as you wish, or we can 

 go by the order of the subcommittee witness list. Let us do that. 



Mr. Edwards, President, Board of Directors of the Southeast 

 Alaska Conservation Council. We look forward to your testimony. 

 We would appreciate your summarizing as much as you can. Obvi- 

 ously we are going to finish this, but we want to give everybody an 

 opportunity so we would appreciate summaries. 



Please proceed, sir. 



STATEMENT OF LARRY EDWARDS, PRESIDENT, SOUTHEAST 

 ALASKA CONSERVATION COUNCIL 



Mr. Edwards. Senator Murkowski, I will summarize. 



My name is Larry Edwards. I am President of the Southeast 

 Alaska Conservation Council, also known as SEACC. SEACC is a 

 grassroots coalition of 13 groups in 11 southeast cities and villages. 

 I will be speaking today in strong support of S. 346, the Tongass 

 Timber Reform Act, and in opposition to S. 237, introduced by my 

 own Senators. 



I am a 12-year resident of Sitka, where I usually move to work 

 for the Alaska Pulp Corporation as a mechanical engineer. Since 

 quitting APC in 1978, my primary employment has been operation 



