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Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Finney. I have just one 

 question. 



I am wondering if you could give us your 30-second version of 

 what would happen in your perception to the residents, families 

 and communities of southeastern Alaska with the impact of Sena- 

 tor Wirth's bill. You touched on it. 



Mr. Finney. Our best estimate that it would be devastating to 

 the area. 



Senator Murkowski. What does that mean? 



Mr. Finney. It means that it would take a third of the jobs, the 

 direct jobs, out of the forest. 



In addition to that, it would dislocate all the people that are on 

 the forest, these 23 logging communities where people have their 

 homes. There is no other resource development or any other basis 

 which could sustain those people. They would have to leave the 

 forest. They would have to leave Alaska. There is no other resource 

 development that they could go into or could work in. They would 

 be left abandoning their houses because there would be no demand 

 for them. They would have to leave Alaska. 



Senator Murkowski. Kind of like the Anchorage condominium 

 market? 



Mr. Finney. Maybe even worse than that. 



Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Finney. 



Mr. William H. Banzhaf, Executive Vice President, Society of 

 American Foresters. 



I think we need to take a break at this time. 



[A brief recess was taken.] 



Senator Murkowski. We will call the hearing back to order. 



Our third witness is Mr. William H. Banzhaf, Executive Vice 

 President, Society of American Foresters, Bethesda, Maryland. 



Again, I would ask your forbearance to summarize as much of 

 your statements as possible. 



Please proceed. 



STATEMENT OF WILLIAM H. BANZHAF, EXECUTIVE VICE 

 PRESIDENT, SOCIETY OF AMERICAN FORESTERS 



Mr. Banzhaf. My name is William Banzhaf. 



Senator Murkowski. Banzhaf. I will get it yet. 



Mr. Banzhaf. I have to practice it every morning myself, so I un- 

 derstand. 



The Society of American Foresters has 20,000 members and rep- 

 resents all segments of the forest profession, including private and 

 public practitioners, researchers, educators, administrators and stu- 

 dents. 



This afternoon I would like to very briefly summarize a few of 

 our major concerns included in our written testimony submitted 

 for the record. 



Senator Murkowski. So noted. 



Mr. Banzhaf. Thank you. 



Although we realize that many of the provisions of ANILCA are 

 fraught with controversy and may require change, mandating 

 these changes as suggested by S. 237 and 346 when only 9 



