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again. It is an imbalance that we have not been very sensitive to, 

 and is something obviously worth thinking about as we proceed 

 down this road. 



We are in the back end of this vote — let me just check. 



I think the main thing, Mr. Secretary, you know, we are going 

 into recess at the end of next week — is to make certain that we 

 could work with you closely in those ensuing weeks so that as soon 

 as we return in September, we are in a position hopefully to move 

 forward, recognizing the October realities. 



It would be good not to simply have an interim provision with 

 respect to the interim takings. And if we can try to parcel these 

 together I think it would facilitate the overall reauthorization proc- 

 ess, and I would like to try to do that. 



Mr. Hall. We will do that, Senator, and we will work with the 

 Office of Management and Budget and try to get you copies of the 

 official regulations as quickly as possible. 



Senator Kerry. Thank you. I would appreciate it. 



We will recess momentarily for the vote, and I would ask if the 

 second panel could take its places in the meantime, thank you. 



[A brief recess was taken.] 



Senator Kerry. The hearing will come to order. Thank you all 

 very much for vour patience with the process around here. I apolo- 

 gize to those wno have other places to be and things to do, and who 

 thought they might have been out of here by now. But that is the 

 nature of the beast here. 



I am delighted to welcome to the second panel John Prescott, the 

 executive director of the New England Aquarium, and Dr. John 

 Grandy of the Humane Society of the United States, and Brian 

 MacDonald, associate director. New England Aquarium, also from 

 Boston. And I am delighted that you are all here, and I look for- 

 ward to opposing and similar views. We will lead off with Mr. Pres- 

 cott. 



STATEMENT OF JOHN PRESCOTT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, 

 NEW ENGLAND AQUARIUM, TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE 

 ALLIANCE OF MARINE MAMMAL PARKS AND AQUARIUMS, 

 AND THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF ZOOLOGICAL PARKS 

 AND AQUARIUMS; ACCOMPANIED BY ELEANOR FRIES, DI- 

 RECTOR OF EDUCATION, AQUARIUM FOR WILDLIFE CON- 

 SERVATION; DR. MICHAEL HUTCHINS, DIRECTOR OF CON- 

 SERVATION AND SCIENCE, AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF ZO- 

 OLOGICAL PARKS AND AQUARIUMS; DR. RAE STONE, MA- 

 RINE MAMMAL VETERINARIAN AND COOWNER OF DOLPHIN 

 QUEST, HAWAII; DR. JIM McBAIN, CORPORATE DIRECTOR OF 

 VETERINARY MEDICINE. SEA WORLD; AND JOHN KIRTLAND, 

 MEMBER, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, INTERNATIONAL MARINE 

 MAMMAL ANIMAL TRAINERS ASSOCIATION 



Mr. Prescott. Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. I am 

 John Prescott, the executive director of the New England Aquar- 

 ium. 



Today, as 23 years ago, I am speaking in support of the act. I 

 am representing the 26 members of the Alliance of Marine Mam- 

 mal Parks and Aquariums, the 159 accredited institutional and 



