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about the fish producing streams that are not included in the lists 

 that have been produced for suggested withdrawal and we would 

 demand riparian zones on all fish producing streams. 



There has been all kinds of talk about the people of the Tongass; 

 well fishermen are a big part of these people. We have seen lots of 

 hard times and cuts to our industry and have had to adjust. We 

 feel the people of the timber industry can learn to adjust also. We 

 are not asking that the timber industry be done away with as we 

 feel it is also important and vital to the economy of southeast 

 Alaska but we want multiple-use protection. 



The Southeast Alaska Gillnetters lend respect to the timber in- 

 dustry and ask for respect back that being, all fish producing 

 streams must be protected. We feel to accomplish this the 4.5 man- 

 date must be removed. The long-term contracts must be re-negoti- 

 ated and the balance of multiple-use management needs to be en- 

 forced. 



In closing, according to the Tongass Timber Reform Act Survey 

 conducted by Decisions Science Incorporated at the request of the 

 Sealaska Corporation, a majority of southeast residents believe 

 commercial fishing to be the most important industry to the 

 future. We would like to protect this fact. 



Thank you. 



Senator Wirth. Thank you very much. 



Ms. Troll. Are you with the seiners? 



I understand Senator Murkowski drew a fabulous picture. 



Ms. Troll. Trollers is where? You would think that I would be 

 representing the trollers but no, that not — that is another major 

 fleet. 



Senator Murkowski. I will try to draw that too. 



Senator Wirth. Well, I will just tell you that my daughter came 

 home for the week-end from college and she had a special dinner of 

 Alaska salmon. That was Alaska salmon, it said so on the box, 

 Alaska salmon, it did not say whether it was seine, trolled or gill- 

 netted. 



Ms. Troll. Well, I will take credit for that. 



STATEMENT OF KAY TROLL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SOUTHEAST 

 ALASKA SEINERS ASSOCIATION 



Ms. Troll. My name is Kate Troll and I do represent the South- 

 east Alaska Seiners. I also have a Master's Degree in Natural Re- 

 source Management from the Yale School of Forestry and Environ- 

 mental Studies. I have worked in the field of resource management 

 and planning for the state, local, native and private sectors of 

 Alaska over the past 11 years. I also served on the Ketchikan Bor- 

 ough Assembly so I feel my background gives me a balanced per- 

 spective to comment on this. 



All the fishermen want is a clear directive for true, balanced 

 multiple-use management of the Tongass, but that balance is im- 

 possible to achieve when one use, timber, has a congressional man- 

 date and all other uses are lumped together under the National 

 Forest Management Act. When fishermen organizations review 

 planned timber sales and request more streamside protection the 

 answer all too often is, we need all the timber we can get to meet 



