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edge of a lake and a beaver slaps its tail and dives in the water. I 

 am not an expert on it but I know that with a little care, planning 

 and patience, like these animals, the trees will return. 



Senator Wirth. Thank you, Mr. Zink. Very nice statement. 



Now we all thank you very much, we appreciate your being here. 

 Thank you ever so much. 



Mr. Johnson, the same for you for your patience until we got all 

 squared away. 



Senator Murkowski. Mr. Chairman, while we are waiting for the 

 next group there is a wilderness article and stumpage prices 



Senator Wirth. Without objection we will put that in the record. 



Now if the next panel will join us, Mr. Steve ShuU, Doug Dal- 

 gren, Michelle Bonet, Jeff Sloss and Renee Shewey, our next panel 

 and then on deck will be Mr. David Woodie, Pauline Lee, Sara 

 Hannan, Steven Kallick, Judy Brakel and Ed Lapeyri. 



All right, we are going right now to Steve ShuU, as our lead-off 

 man. Steve. 



STATEMENT OF STEVE SHULL 



Mr. Shull. My name is Steve Shull, a 30-year resident of Ketchi- 

 kan, born and raised. 



For 20 years I have been in the field. I am just another taxpayer 

 of this great system our country has here. I cannot understand why 

 you, Mr. Wirth, want to change the Tongass Forest Agreements of 

 1980 when it certainly could not have had a chance to work in only 

 nine years. Come on, give it a chance, do not try to make me and 

 others like me live in turmoil in a vast wilderness none of us want. 

 Wilderness cannot make my friends, my family or me a living. Can 

 it make you a living, Mr. Wirth? I suppose it would one way or an- 

 other. 



Come on, let this forest be prosperous. 



Senator Wirth. Thank you very much, Mr. Shull. 



Mr. Dahlgren. 



STATEMENT OF DOUG DAHLGREN 



Mr. Dahlgren. Mr. Chairman, I am Doug Dahlgren and I live 80 

 miles southwest of Ketchikan, Alaska. I am a road builder from 

 Long Island with a population of approximately 250. 



I have been in the business most of my adult life and in Alaska 

 on and off since 1975. During that time I have seen many unwant- 

 ed changes within the timber industry. It would be nice if the 

 people could count on our government to protect our livelihood in- 

 stead of taking away the necessary resources to survive in the 

 country. 



On Long Island we log native timber that will soon be a commod- 

 ity of the past and the Alaskans will need to depend entirely on 

 the Forest Service timber sales to live in southeast Alaska. 



I think the legislators need to realize that we have more than 

 enough wilderness and we certainly do not want to see the timber 

 harvest curtailed in any way. We must assure the harvest and re- 

 generation of Alaska's timber in order to secure the economy for 

 Alaska's future generations. 



