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Senator Wirth. Now, just a brief question, Mr. Kirchhoff. Have 

 you told us which of those areas the legislation which I have of- 

 fered and which the Southeast Conference has suggested — where 

 you are on those boundaries? Can we make sure that we get that 

 from you before you leave, sir? 



Mr. Kirchhoff. Right. 



Senator Wirth. Now, you have seen the handout here, and we 

 appreciate again getting local input as to what kind of protections 

 ought to be built in. It appears that we are headed in that direction 

 in some fashion, and we would like to get your specific input on 

 that. 



We flew over Port Alexander yesterday afternoon, and it is not 

 accessible in a lot of places. 



Mr. Kirchhoff. That is right. 



Senator Wirth. Ms. Ziel, Diane Ziel, City Council member of 

 Tenakee Springs. 



STATEMENT OF DIANE M. ZIEL, MEMBER, CITY COUNCIL, 



TENAKEE SPRINGS, AK 



Ms. Ziel. My name is Diane Ziel. I am a member of the City 

 Council of Tenakee Springs. Thank you for the opportunity to testi- 

 fy on behalf of Tenakee Springs, a community that has been drasti- 

 cally affected by the present mismanagement of the Tongass. Tena- 

 kee has long supported Tongass reform, and I am here to testify in 

 favor of Senator Wirth's bill and against Senator Murkowski's bill. 



In public meetings, the Forest Service personnel have stated that 

 they are unable to consider the needs of our community. First, be- 

 cause of the 50-year contracts and because of the 450 mandate, our 

 community has had to go to Federal Court to halt illegal road 

 builders. 



Senator Wirth. Is that on the record anjrwhere, Ms. Ziel? Are 

 they saying that or have they written that to you, do you know, 

 when you say the Forest Service says they cannot consider the 

 needs of the community and so on? 



Ms. Ziel. Yes, we have tapes of meetings and minutes of meet- 

 ings also. 



Senator Wirth. Would you look through those? I would like to 

 see that for the record. 



Again, when you make statements like that, be sure we can pin 

 them down, and I would appreciate receiving that from you. Thank 

 you. 



Ms. Ziel. Our community has had to go to Federal Court to halt 

 illegal road building financed by the Tongass timber supply fund. 

 We feel that there are key areas in the Tongass that need perma- 

 nent legislative protection. Areas of particular interest to Tenakee 

 residents are Trap Bay and Kadashan. Kadashan is one of the top 

 salmon producers in the Southeast. 



In 1985, the economic value of the pink salmon run was over $1 

 billion. Kadashan's renewable resource value far outweighed the 

 dubious value of harvesting timber in this water shed. It supports 

 commercial hunting and fishing and is fully used by both residents 

 and visitors. 



