anvary 28, 1869.] 
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necessary, be stated against direct intervention in 
e to the tuition given at parish schools and other local 
semi Lir ciland Committee have only further to recom- 
mend that two prizes s should annually be allowed by ре 
Society to the со dents who pass the best and the second bes 
examinations the € — m the Пагу м 
Edinburgh. Signed) v, Меи, C." 
Mr. NissET HAMILTON moved G adoption of the 
г. МАА ester 
Р gen a jette r from Mr. M ue pr ome, requ 
Mr. Home's to ort to give my mo 
—- А I не гер particnlarly to that part. which 
to the giving of diplo It is said in the 
Best 1 think, that Mer Should be a certain number 
of marks require n givin g the diploma, a nd tha t 
there should d money prizes 
who exceeded th ecified number of marks, Now ET 
think that a diploma i is ре pend wes hen any- 
It i ertificate 
нонуо 4 
gi m the deben: of | going wit ith honon ur 
t to another, 
n the eA There: are e other points 
advert to, 
m. Т beg si mpl y to reiterate the hope 
at the directors i bed this point into their con- 
kep tion: th 
report at i this meet ting, or whether they will allow it to | wi 
t 
lie on the table till next meetin 
Мт, B. NICHOLSON, - ocate, and Professor BALFOUR 
eee y M im import ant that p» me ong pro- 
with the report and dispose of it just now. The 
later mid the better course wou ld be to adop titini its 
necessary, a8 the 
received Tren of its 
veiut: He co 
А 
re d the question of age a minor 
qu 
poiut, and was nion that they ур поб ен 
the үн ey M M терот Жы dit AUR — 
tbe e wished mark the 
giving n 
diplomas, = that the 
addition to those 
higher 
in intended to čepreciato the 
prizes should be given in 
young gentlemen who fadi hated a 
than that required by the | n 
poma. 
Sir Јону SruART ForBES said he thought the 
en Should -put -either as the re of the 
ommittee, b the deliberat 
result of the consideration on this subject by the Com- 
mittee on Education of this Socie The Council w 
one which en established by their ippleseitery (е 
Charter, and it consist n of the highest |; 
position and of the highest intelligence in the country 
І o e perfectly to deal with that 
rtant question in the most liberal and systematic 
anner. He th t, therefore, it u very 
undesirable that they should throw open the whoie of 
the points of that tion for discussion and for th 
ments of every one who might choose to take it up 
at the moment, eonsidering that they had that deliberate 
» in f the adoption certain course. 
е was р Ns SE that Step which v 
Committee had ended ha en take 
ча i had vdranced within the last бевте 
onths er hich he had never hoped |to 
to 0 вее а lished short a time. Therefore he 
was minns shut they should not lose time. Не was 
qu M f examina- 
T dd. " o ait пто! э iin mm 
t was the 
The otim Me is Mr. ES so PAN - of which 
read portions to the mee 
jon ton, 10, ers су Squa; 
January 14, 1865, 
ways taken an interest in the 
ra riesit emen E Me d Society, а те - 
g of the ig an iety, 1 hope 
уоп will now allow me to Write to you with referenc 6 to the 
the New Club, 
d 
Mr. Марац 
dear Sir As you ha 
e 
also approved of 
general meeting on the 
it; and that it would be laid d before 
St., with a view to its being confirmed, and to its finally 
18th in 
THE GARDENERS CHRONICLE AND AGRICULTURAL GAZETTE. 
85 
settling the whole matter. He added that he had been 
is p ome ы а) to me a copy of the report. 
I havı ince received this document, and have iven to it 
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enia ida by the Duke as President of t 
сеанса ве to d o hs 
EN n hopes, till yesterd. 
ix the e Higi 
spo в гем 
dressing a “Жыш Va you, that, 
proper, you 
general meeting when the sut m is ДЕ 
The copy of the report which w. 
that 
= understand 1 the which I have to ofer upon 
eadi ng feat 
I much ri pede ; that an opportunity had not been given ei vem 
of perusing ү report erm it was laid before the dire 
not cepe pan н 
if you e only 
purport at the REM of a 
one would think that they they 
these money prizes, Yet 
Pis the very class who required most such a stimulus. The 
older students of 21 years and upwards, 9s gain the Society's 
n reach ud the Жык prize уе, рго- 
to thos: vim. in com орой 
the exa rin dese a pri: 
Ка бес restriction ub T "humbly think objectionable 
is the condition as to the ages of those who compete for the 
diploma and certificate ы ЕЙТ. The latter can and gained 
by Asa ^ above 18 years, the former by persons above 
Ede eer there be any such restriction ? who 
8 the requisite knowledge to compete for a 
pos ies I the 
you may cjr eed of it, Ari айдо bé. the "better pri eertifiente i is only 16 or 17 years old, why eti he b ba ex- 
cri its 
me knowledge 
beall the more phris dig 
m 
cluded? If he possesses the sa s the boy of 
18, he a 
for approval, or that 
ше. directors; d ei itor of hi would have asked ssed of the dbi: specified as 
eto submit t ве consideration Бе Rope nm I Serien te. 
ac Pw "feel cons! hts to — ake only ws es сөр ; Moreover, this restriction in regard to ages of Wm 
I shall оној frst, the Ая у^; the report Мон I Pecan до me inconsistent with tho whole tenor of the first part 
cordially concu port, Wee {һе ву m ofrosirictions hitherto 
1st, I rejoice ааб he vtt t paragraph, a declaration roe горо and which 8 ends * 
ы ы object aimed at— p y ow "x Society can most effec- diia of the required inan tem Ал hal ТЕ bo dee e жийи 
-— Жш romote agricultural е tio: qualification for a candidate." If this restriction continues, it 
s no - gratifying to s 
in the re ере 
er мА nd e 
шц 
о 
for such c 
“Тһе Council and 
confine 
gested,” and not. “© to 
as has now been sug, 
flue 
diret relations with provineial o or eder A Mtem һе 
I g: T fr € A arks that es ters a 
agricultura instruc id^ tels g give анаја My in 
pro ial, 
— also in Ур ri Э c "that they од iut from b gio 
h such instruction, feel | of а 
Themi SA in Edinburgh, merely on the chance of geting an 
n parti 
classes of schools will, as respects 
the udis of the measures MP in the beg е 
the recommendations nom will dere e effect of excluding from 2 тп Mi riz 
n 
e 
provinci ial 
f — turiste, and to vie with each PEA qualifying чна apprehension as to the ни of the E rastr at бе. schools. 
mpe $+ a - - io 
unles: 
Committee end the Society to MT 
рр at с for the рген, 9-7 Alto Y E m Pambuk to be e 
tablish 
zes and marks 
a Universi 
18 years of age 
N ans the е say that "E expect the prizes and 
marks of distinction will E duce provincial schools to pay 
ral edu — and to vie with 
"— for them 
siderable mis- 
9 lent 
ined. 
Such a дее др "ot virtually limit the whole benefit — 
especially when vae with the restriction as to age—to 
ЖЕГИ Тыш Univer d gh. 
It is ould come up 
"other towh the seat 
t to pec 
vineial Schools, or roe d any o 
f travelling and of 
a University, and incur the expense o 
this expectation is likely to be realised, а: — honorar, m ate or diploma, espccially if excluded from the 
whether the provinsi ls, rosp "s “ the mipi money 
and marks of distinction proposed to be conferred,” will Thé Sir apparently felt that this restriction would be 
with eachjother in fying their scholar: compete for | open to animadversion, and therefore they set upa defence of 
hese, is a separat tion, on which I reserve my remarks | it. They say thet the “learned Professors" give their 
ill afterwards. nt I wish only to notice and approve | gratuitous co-operation, to ''enable the Society to conduct 
of the object he reporters, which is popularise and | examinations in Edinburgh;" but that “ the extension of E 
xtend agricultural education, and ,to p late provincial | System of examination to the provinces would m 
Schools in 'affording it to their pupils. а staff Жолын nd what it is in the power of the Socie ty to 
2d, s and marks us distinction proposed in the | organi 
рог! go, and viewed араг& from the re mid in cnr words, because the жаюу n deberi rs are willing 
annexed to them—meet also ае approval They ai take part in the examinations when they are 
follow :— confined inburgh, the Society, for the | sake of а beet 
(1.) Tw ual money prizes to the students who pass the | saving, shoul -— he students of the other Scottis! 
best and бекона: best examinations in the Agricultural Ciass of Universities and of all the provincia! ools, of the necessary 
the ——X / of Edinbw тр, 8 of testing their qualifications. 
(2.) A certi ii cate to red on candidates Th be ociety sends Judges, ungrudgingly to distant parts o 
Fase oss se found to Bore e accounts, mense ошап i to examine са A Pig ade and award prizes 
ration, and s таушы. ап, and to have а good knowledge to the most deserving, а exceeding what would 
practi ei t and a general NR poe with" t ihe to send a to examine csndidetes 
elements of botany, chemistry, a es peer 5. rap the provinces who may wish to pete for the diploma or 
(3.) A diploma to be confi mi- | certificate. I Ein of pnl believe that the Society, if it 
nation are "ouod to have a (iae шы кере, of the hedey sanctions the offeri: and marks of distinction to be 
and practice of agriculture, and of the other branches stated competed for r by t E ot js Dro ciao] schools, will refuse the 
in the report. only hy my means of ii. out that object. 
(4.) А sum € жеш 1001 to be applied ut if the Highland Society really think it mM enm to 
the ex э pm staff of t thair own to exami n the pro- 
3d, oris is 7 онна See in the roport of which I approve. ces, Бут pian equally efficacious, and тегу 
The re Arrangements have 
py ast a t prosent o the 
ted” in the Rina "РЕ ге xad 
н to m ny institution iub ее — ie 
To act otherwis mid, e ur d Bondy M. pere 
and u мди ы "ind € to imp te ons 
grim 
4th, e views lead m approve abolition of 
the gostriotions "o рте, there не нее for 
a S ty's diploma. ue me ушы d ght to dispense 
e rule re = g al йай at clas: uM residence on | Conr 
а iiri for periods of ha н ieo Hte i and also with the 
ance of any curriculum. It ought to be sufficie 
warding honora) rtifica! 
ls which had airain ed a к не atender e for the Society's 
prizes апа — or receive the — for grep oct 
in the town where the other examinations are being 
ie cid in the District 
mitte conducting а A Uni Mir ut examina- 
tion in габат пехё MC. i^ had sent to me by the 
nt, as the | secretary a list of the subjects which will be embraced by it. 
reporters say, if а candidate shall bo in “ the e possession of | Among these subjects I find mechanics, chemistry, natural 
ay 
the сотона к + ovledge,” wherever and however that m 
hav 
Whilst Po" rd in th 
just been referring, a 
to do so, I cu bond (ОШ. Mie egre to take notice of | would be oed competent 
me У, зави and vegetable 
inquiry in 
physiology, which are the 
anexamination for the Society's 
cipal heads о! 
e facta of the report to which I have ipl oma and pet cate; so that the persons who, on behalf 
ud tellis much gratifielin being able | of the Universities, are to eye ро е саш чат examinations, 
ter also on behalf 
some portion. which I с - е ch, I would | of the Зосі 
really hope, the dicet жч Inf en On these grounds, I cannot concur іп the propriety of any 
I Minds e now to the conditions MR hie. se^ dated to “the | of the res sani Priem which are Petoriitesided to be annexed to 
priz d marks of distinction 
” to be offered by the Society | the prizes and marks of distinction specified in the report, 
If 
conditions wbich appear to me to go far to vini ue the | the directors really entertain be desire > ч — and 
xten- 
cts of these vic wore i e popularisation ап 
an arta cultu 
stly hope 
1, Horne to fire, ls tbe "order I have already mentioned p айо, "hat E will ask iy from 
-— class in the узы of aer MS 
them, why should the ** 
Edinburgh " be selected as alone to receive à money 
Atthe University of Айе Дор; ы is also (e: 
committee) an agricultural class, called the Fordyce Lecture- 
Ship, р" is generally attended during the inti: 
by 20 or 3 Кане nts. It has a miserable en 
about 40i д mm А Much as the Edinburg 
— encouragement, the Aberdeen class ri бт it А5 
told the pat: p^ Rr pupil pupils а desire to баши лө 
sessio: 
ndowment of only | the importance of the 
h class requires 
nal Charter," I 
о restet ee HA 
iaten 
sia] € the — of the Socie 
r these 
hey will r е 
or district ac ene sd being Mela in in e 
any pr sie АШ or parochi: s intimating on the 
for the Bociety's 
Үе written thùs pes Ан wise i irs 
subject Me quite as much as Pad T wd 
been Peas at the meeting of the Society next Wednestay 
have asked leave to express my views oy Ds ron tho 
report: I would have га othing m 
to the directors" roam E 4 But I porte 
ustice to m; 
"d opposition io 
y o viously expressed 
ns of many y infuential eer bem of 
tiality " which the reporters say s м ambe — , | opini to tho opini 
so many of the Edinburgh P. TS ат apon the com- the! Society ° 9-5 have, =. m honoured me wi ЕЕС 
mittee, it might be alleged, however unjustly, that they also | support in this question. erefore would feel much obliged 
en actuated in this matter аы ы f you would, on the dar of the report at the im^ 
e With regard to the annual sui 1 ee — in д гар the kindness to inake known my views 
, с e the rem ble trict "iss They are | way that see бе 
Бы given агу. “% n who pass s with p eoe ei The Фер аге prol ly aware of my opinion, as, when 
merit, and o standard exceeding that required for the sr Hall Maxwell e to me some of the leading 
diploma." tures of ем т? t га him that I үе eei that I could 
The diploma is only fo ч who have the highest not — -— have to & at the genera 
qualifications; tbe; RM. “а thorough eee, sir, yours very irm ruly, 
of the Theory and Practice A. "Agrienlture--of Mechanics DaviD Mk HOLME, 
Menruration-—of tbe Physiology and Treatment of Domeiti To P. M'Lagan, эн of Pumpherston. 
Animals—and ol pm appliontions of Botany, The emistry, a CHEMICAL 
Natural Б. (о x i money, m. is to b D. DEPARTM 
iven to any one who oes по on xamination, N, ір reportin 
that standard. those who come up to it taro exce, thi 2 spart nt ds р the tant six the monii, s done 
But whatis still more grievous, the younger s*udents wh in 18 берер uring e six mon tati 
compete for the ** certificate,” and who obtain it, are ex xcluded | tl maller numbe 
