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the chiefs and captains of the Apaches. This plan is 
to keep the murderer in chains, as you now see 
him ; to make him work, and to give all he earns to the 
wife and family of your dead brave. This I will see 
paid in blankets, in cotton, in beads, in corn, in money, 
or in any thing the family may want. I will give them 
all that is now due to this man, and at the end of every 
month, I will give them twenty dollars more in money, 
or in goods. When the cold season arrives, these 
women and children will then come in and receive 
their blankets and cloth to keep them warm, and corn 
to satisfy their hunger.” 
Ponce.—“‘ You speak well. Your promises are 
fair. But money will not satisfy an Apache for the 
murder of a brave! No! thousands will not drown 
the grief of this poor woman for the loss of her son. 
‘Would money satisfy an American for the murder of 
his people? Would money pay you, Sefior Commis- 
sioner, for the loss of your child? No! money will 
not bury your grief. It will not bury ours. The 
mother of this brave demands the life of the mur- 
derer. Nothing else will satisfy her. She -wants no 
money. She wants no goods. She wants no corn. 
Would money satisfy me, Ponce (at the same time 
striking his breast), for the death of my son? No! I 
would demand the blood of the murderer. Then I 
would be satisfied. Then would I be willing to die 
myself. I would not wish to live and bear the grief 
which the loss of my son would cause me.”* 
* This son of Ponce was the finest looking man we saw at the 
Copper Mines, and the greatest rascal. In an attempt some months 
