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Bantams other than Games— E. P. Howlett, Syracuse, 

 N. Y ; E. S. Ongley, Auburn, N. Y. ; P. Williams, Taun- 

 ton, Mass. 



Various Class— Eev. Wm. Atwood, Big Flats, N. Y. ; 

 W. H. Todd, Vermilion, Ohio ; S. H. Seamans, Wauwatosa, 

 Wis. 



Turkeys — Geo. Vanderveer, Port Jackson, N. Y. ; J. Y. 

 Bicknell, Westmoreland, N. Y. ; M. H. Oyer, Massillon, 

 Ohio ; W. H. Todd, Vermilion, Ohio. 



Geese and Ducks— W. H. Todd, Vermilion, Ohio ; C. B. 

 Elben, Pittsburg, Pa. ; Daniel Allen, Gait, Ont. 



Your committee recommend that the Association instruct 

 the committees on the respective breeds to make their re- 

 ports on the numerical basis of one hundred. 



Mr. Williams moved that all correspondence relating to 

 the alteration of the standard, be passed over to these com- 

 mittees, and the motion was carried without opposition. 



Mr. Halsted moved that the Committee on Asiatics be 

 instructed to make the word size mean weight. 



Mr. Churchman thinks this should be discussed by the 

 committee on all classes of birds. 



Mr. Halsted's motion that the size of Asiatics be made 

 uniform, discussed by Mr. Felch, and thinks ten is a small 

 enough number to allow for weight. 



Mr. Halsted thinks size should be independent from 

 weight. 



Mr. Lock wood thinks the matter should be discussed after 

 the report of the sub-committees. 



Mr. Halsted thinks the birds should be judged as they are 

 in size, and not as they may be in future development. 



Mr. Felch thinks weight should prevail, rather than a 

 large frame not yet developed or matured. 



Mr. Williams speaks on th'e improvement in size of birds 

 at recent shows, and thinks size and weight should remain 

 in the standard as at present, and thinks fifteen is the better 

 number. 



Mr. Halsted wants the number fifteen and not twenty on 

 all Asiatics. 



Mr. Hudson suggests size and weight rather than either 

 alone should be in the standard. 



Carried. 



Report of the committee accepted as read, with the amend- 

 ment of Mr. Hudson. 



Adjourned till 2 P.M. to-morrow, with instructions to 

 committees to report at that hour. 



Jan. 15th, 1874. 



January 16th, 1874, 3 p.m. 



Called to order by the President. 



Mr. Churchman wished no minutes taken by outside 

 parties, and would expel any member violating this rule. 



No reporters will be allowed here at the meeting this 

 evening. 



Mr. Warren moves adjournment till 7 p.m. 



Mr. Williams named S. Merry, W. H. Todd, D. Allen, 

 and C. H. Crosby, as a committee to revise the standard on 

 the general shape of Cochins. Nominations of said com- 

 mittee confirmed. 



Adjourned on motion of Mr. Warren till 7 p.m. this day. 



January 16th, 7£ p.m. 



Convention called to order. President Churchman in the 

 Chair. 



Mr. Warren moves the appointment of a committee of 

 three on Transportation by this Association. Carried. A. 



D. Warren made Chairman, E. C. Skinner and W. H. 

 Churchman added. 



Letters of C. J. Ward ordered, accepted, and filed, and 

 the Secretary directed to communicate with them in rela- 

 tion to the matter. 



Mr. Williams moves to add Mr. Sweet to the Committee 

 on Transportation. 



Moved that former committee be empowered to select 

 their associates as occasion may offer. 



Mr. Hudson moved that the committee consist of a mem- 

 ber of each State Society. 



Mr. Warren would like the committee to consist of nine, 

 all to be members of the A. P. A. 



Six members added, Todd, Gregg, Hudson, D. Allen, P. 

 Williams, and Jos. M. Wade. 



Mr. Halsted suggests the appointment of members to act as 

 judges at the various shows. 



Mr. Churchman supports the suggestion. 



Mr. Williams suggests a petition of one hundred or more 

 names to the express companies to reduce their rates. 



Mr. Kinney complains of want of care on the part of 

 the express companies. 



Mr Halsted thinks much more blame should attach to 

 the shipper. 



Committees on Revision of Standard called on to report. 



Mr. Halsted's report received on French Class and Black 

 Spanish. Accepted on Black Spanish. Accepted on Creve 

 Coeurs. Accepted on Houdans. Accepted on La Fleche. 

 Committee discharged. 



Committee, on Light Brahmas report read and accepted. 

 Committee discharged. 



Report of Committee on Dark Brahmas accepted. Com- 

 mittee discharged. 



Report on Buff Cochins read and accepted. Committee 

 discharged. 



On motion of Mr. Atwood, the reports so far accepted are 

 adopted by the Convention. 



Report on Partridge Cochins read and accepted and 

 adopted. Committee discharged. 



(Continued in our next.) 



(For Fanciers' Journal.) 



ON SCALES OF POINTS FOR JUDGING POULTRY. 



By L. Wright. 



As American fanciers appear at present to be considerably 

 "exercised " about tbe revision of their Standard of Excel- 

 lence, and two of your correspondents have referred directly 

 to my views upon the subject of a standard for judging 

 birds, I have thought that a fuller expression of them may 

 not be thought presumptious, and may, perhaps, prove of 

 some use ; the more so that Mr. Woodward, while referring 

 to me in terms far more flattering than I deserve, has, to 

 some extent, misunderstood my meaning in coming to. the 

 conclusion that, "after many attempts to get around the 

 difficulties which constantly present themselves, I have at 

 last decided that any numeral standard must of necessity be 

 a failure." 



The remarks in an English journal, to which I have no 

 doubt Mr. Woodward alludes, referred particularly to a ri- 

 diculous proposal on the part of a small clique, not includ- 

 ing at most more than half a dozen competent breeders, to 

 meetand"fix" a standard of points by mere opinion. This 

 experiment had been already tried once, with a result known 



