240 THE 
GARDENERS' 
CHRONICLE. 
[AUGUST 21, 1875. 
French Annexe' which on the plan (A.) hereto is 
coloured re 
E sk. The Society will permit the Commissioners gabe. 
such term to occu nd use that portion of the sa 
‹ xe'w 
oners may, when 
up a division or barrier between the 
coloured red and blue 
`4. The Co ommissioners will permit the Society to 
said portions 
and to o 
Society the land shown on the said p nd thereon 
cro: lack lines. The said road shall be so con- 
struc nsure to th ciety a su an n- 
or 
: edor of the said eine the Commissioners shall 
build Free н house equally convenient and suitable for 
the purposes for which the said house er eie) Aem 
shall make other sufficient compensation for the 
done не 
“* 6. The Commissioners из) build on provide a con- 
venient office positions 
carpen! p е 
marked on the said plan i ), with the words * office 
and ‘carpenters’ sho 
“7. Subject to joint use with visitors to other parts 
of the Commissioners’ estate the 
orchard-hous 
and north-west y^ the genious, subject to 
six months’ нето 
“8, Should the Commissioners desire to resume 
rm. ‚ог wholly 
r the Society' s lan 
The CHAIRMAN : LAT shall be glad now to hear 
any pvp an 
Mr. SHIRLEY 
stated in one of 
or 
built or erected ы Or ove 
ake. 
RED observed that it was 
documents read that the income 
of the Society was to be = sed to £10,000; now he 
wished to know whether the Cod had any s ca 
to show in what way Ch proposed the ged should 
be so raised? · Unless the Fell e plans 
before them 
it was Se — to understand 
the statements машы int 
: Mr. Pim will A ee you = 
plan. We hav soe a really no time to prepare 
elaborate scheme for the increase of the е Societys 
PE ve had but a very few s to 
s with our landlord and I think «ed н 
u at present. befor 
Christmas we s na position to lay before you 
an elaborate scheme for "the increase of the income of 
the Society. 
Mr. HAUGHTON remarked that the plans were 
caza settled a day or two pr ERN that it was 
а 
^ number of es ready. To the agreements 
Salat was the point upon which the gentes worked. 
in of. 
Mr. SHIRLEY HIBBERD said there was тебу » 
objection as to the hurried way in which the 
had been called иок т he 
were the Fellow wallow down the docu 
which had been placed | before the и without обр 
Ты, w it was proposed 
$ 
what they re 
TE they — ага t? 
ron assured die meeting that every 
iie. in the poss eem Z Au Council upon 
these points would be given Fellows. 
Mr. LiGGINS: That is 
t had 
in well, but we have 
half-an-hour xamine so 
to look at—to e 
a — like that, composed of scarcely fifty 
Fellow. 
The ‘Cais You are not in order; Mr. 
Hibberd is. 
Mr. соз: : Mr. Hibberd has waived his right 
in favour of me. We must all know ed ies is really 
not a mien he Society, which numbers thou- 
sands of persons who never heard of die гордон 
before us; and, , moreover, à 
great — of those 
nythi of these 
propositions — се entered the roo 
ing doe of fifty persons, xe hope 
s it reas oth that we 
pris M So-calle 
нийн of — А ? 
were = ed upon only the day before yesterday, 
yo berdare must be as ignorant of their effect as 
hink we ought to adjourn the 
eeks. 
The MAN : If we adjourn the meeting we 
"e not have so man 
y Fellows present as we have 
one word as regards time, which I look 
We 
alts газан element і іп this matter. 
all 4 feel. that, unless we get in 
ay, we must fall in pieces, But we wish to pay our 
debts, and to do we t get ey. dt is 
eally of vital im се t we should come to 
have got very same notice as you had wit 
respect to the first agreement ; and we thought we 
should matter 
ve you putting the whole 
— you — it was thoroughly sifted, so that you 
ht bem ries cir 
HIRL хэй на : І beg to propose а reso- 
ie габ, а — is, that 
he now is indefinite a 
character s appears advantageous to = 
Society, ind pe Жейн балл У definite where it a 
disadvantageous to the Society, that we er 
really have time to consider it. You may say 
e are — and difficulty. Well, that is 
too well kno notorious; but there is an 
old saying which it would be well to bear in mind— 
not to ‘jump out of the frying-pan into the fire.” It 
, if we accept these t 
gi mature consideration, we shall com- 
e is immine y pull down this 
institution " our it appears somewhat 
weak. t m as regards the immediate 
wan the € ане: that if an а to 
into these 
posa they come to. ys the Com- 
missioners take our debenture debt? No. Do they 
offer us any money payment? No; indeed they 
ow £7000. 
is, if we can. 
— HIBBERD : Yes, and in three years 
, І was going to say that the 
аут r^ three ye 
Society. I am sure no one would like to see this 
Societ in a e of insolvency, sofor: mx 
раг", | sooner see it in a state of bankru 
than see it dragged „through t mire, r 
it is now done, by asking us to sanction 
TE we have not had time to consider. Here. 
is a case in which we are asked t to take a cup 
of cold water, not knowing w whether there is poison in 
о: ds 
ur Me Shea oad do not te 
S = e 
ay 
ay. Id he Council 
ine jm. of the sort, багы I put the matter in are 
wa ow you that we ought to € 
вану to be done in iun way of raising ihe ja income 
ofthe Society. Let us have a schedule ihid will 
give us that бие: I have no doubt the Council 
and the Commissioners in what they are doing are 
i but at the 
Xm 
ell no: 
O eem Siege 
sioners ! “That is subjugation with a vengeance, 
ook, again, at clause 8, which reads 
- AN his t the said clauses 6 and 
е, ог Bay such ees er days not РИ буе 
ber іп апу one year, as may be agreed upon 
the Society and the Coni mmissioners, admit the Publie 
mà rem wert rs im Gardens free, or 
may be fixed by the Com i 
uis oa ive ap our ights 7 
n 
ary ues 
But, after all d how is it possi 
—: to make, maintain, and control, — to 
Mic e way on the ge гы the Socie ety, the 
shown on plan B., &c, will 
ошай to remove the Pe marked 
no 
hibiti 
Mr Ho N explained that the dun is subject 
to a right si 
Mr. bur HIBBERD: Perhaps v but if you 
carry a road next to Mr. Dick's house it will be im- 
not r stion as t 
right of the Doinionn: or their eed to occupy 
ся use any buildings or — now occupied z 
y them or their le are partly o 
ы чар or erected оп or over io Society's land. ^ 
ell, do you understand аара сотеѕ ій І 
atam — came chon any 
ld up all o our gh н, ee 
jesty' s Comune should 
i em a e ask + эр 
garments and go through the — naked, 
will ask for our = next; they w 
ж apri Sr ed ген our ора, аз аш 
that a body of men, 
they themselves feel as the C 
make such monstrous proposals to the Royal Horti- 
cultural Society and expect that Society to accept 
or receive them is with the utmost astonishment 
à ces a uppose two | 
: rman, I beg to the 
motion just made by my ЫЫ. Mr. Shiriey Hib- 
berd, and in doing s so Í must say I am ished 
that a Council, not elected by ourselves, but ‘rathen, 
h 
ly all of i { dig 
ptcy | cone nu Cem negated eru mus. e. those 
submitted 
ting 
may be very good, but we =e sia no ier 
knowing whether the I should be 
Aberdare says he hopes there will not be any one 
sition, That nobleman does not know the case him- 
self. e is the President of our Society, who 
appointed him know of him is, that he is а 
чу» > ‘exMinster = the Crown, and that 
—been намі into 
office of Proton E the Royal Жансын ociety ; 
that - "ше bee a арры a Council—by 
gentlem ave done nothing but put 
forth this ridiculous sche We ld be 
stultifying ourselves and thousands of Fellows ofthe — 
the sals 
Society if we agreed to the propo laid before us 
until we had proper time to consider and decide upor j 
eee "Let this meeting be adjourned until a 
er of ows come into it, and then it may be 
that ** In a multitude of counsellors there is wisdom. 
there i necessity for this good чой 
i pidly? Matters of this sort 
are (to visit him, and he can't come to 18. | 
And that applies to the 560 Fellows wha uum И 
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