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JOURNAL OP HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER. 



[ October 26, 1878. 



thinking only of exhibition blooms, such as I had noted when 

 judging, I should not have put Dupuy Jamain, or Antoirie 

 Ducher, or Comtesse de Chabrillant, or even Fisher Holmes, 

 into my list. 



I think (but am not quite sure) that " Wild Savage " was 

 at Birmingham when Dupuy Jamain carried off the prize (at 

 the time when the Royal Horticultural Society held their ehow 

 at Birmirgham) for the best twelve blooms of any one kind, 

 and in my opinion as a judge I never saw twelve more beauti- 

 ful Roses staged, plowing in colour, and excellent in shape and 

 form. But then Dupuy Jamain will not stand a warm climate 

 or thin soil, and it requires very close pruning and good 

 management; and I faocy the warm climate of the south, and 

 especially such a summer as we have had this year, would, as 

 "Wild Savage" sajs, " give Dupuy Jamain as many petals as 

 a Horse Daisy;" but I can assure him that with me there are 

 few Roses that give better bloomB, though if I had to exhibit I 

 should be very careful not to put a fully- opened one into my 

 stand on a hot morning in July. I quite endorse what he says 

 about such Roses as Madame Chirard or Baron Chaurand ; but 

 then there are some persons who like small dark Roses ; others 

 who like good flat blooms, like Baronne Prevost, or Thomas 

 Rivers, or Thyra Hammerick, &c. Others, again, cannot afford 

 space of ground, or the cost of growing and trying all the best 

 new Roses as they come out, so that many of the more re- 

 cently introduced high-class Roses take some time before they 

 come into a list such as the one which Mr. Hinton has with 

 such time and trouble collected. 



I think it would be quite worth while to select six amateurs 

 and six nurserymen, accustomed to exhibit and grow Roses, 

 to give a list of exhibition sorts. I would not choose merely 

 judges, for many of the best judges of Roses cannot always 

 afford to grow enough varieties or even enough of each variety 

 to have every Rose practically under their own eyes ; and I 

 equally know many nurserymen who grow Roses in great 

 quantities who are yet not qualified to judge a stand of seventy- 

 two varieties. The best growers, in other words, are not always 

 the best judges. If I might make the suggestion, I should 

 like " Wild Savage," •■ Hercules," and the Rev. S.Reynolds 

 Hole to select six amateurs and six nurserymen to give the 

 lists, and I am inclined to think that at least thirty-Bix out of 

 the fifty named in Mr. Hinton's election would still be placed 

 in the fifty exhibition Roses. 



With me Belle Lyonnaise is no better than her mother, and 

 the " fat, fair, and forty " is quite as good as the blushing 

 maiden. She has, perhaps, a more delicate shade of yellow; 

 but though the old " Gloire" very often gives us rough flat 

 Roses, what Rose is there, except, perhaps, La France, that 

 one can oftener cut to put on one's drawing-room table ? and 

 early and late in the season the blooms are often perfect. I 

 again aver that I do not believe Gloire de Dijon is a Tea, but 

 a hybrid between a Tea and a Bourbon ; and I should like to 

 know other rosarianB' opinions on the subject. 



There are a great many exhibition Roses, as Due de Rohan, 

 Beauty of Waltham, Duke of Edinburgh, and others I could 

 mention, that do not seem to thrive in cold climates. Nothing 

 seems to me more capricious than the constitutions of some 

 Roses. Many seem to deteriorate the more they are propa- 

 gated and the further removed they are from the seedling. 

 Roses which seem when first shown as recent introductions to 

 promise well often fail to make their way in the Rose world. 

 There are other sorts, again, which improve by constant culti- 

 vation, just as some kinds of Apples and Pears can be improved 

 by grafting and redrafting. I am confident, too, that the con- 

 stitutions of some Roses have been impaired by constantly bud- 

 ding on standards planted in nursery rows — long, bare, dried- 

 rip stems with very few roots, and then the buds are taken 

 again from these ; when nurserymen want to increase a stook 

 of Roses of any kind quickly they are not very particular as 

 to buds. 



I omitted this year in my list Duke of Edinburgh, because, 

 though I have occasionally seen magnificent blooms, and 

 beautiful in point of colour, it nearly always quarters, and for 

 one good bloom I cut ten which are indifferent. There are 

 some Roses, too, like Marquise de Mortemart and the old 

 Madame Fnrtado, which are only good in some soils and occa- 

 sional seasons. Madame Fnrtado I fear will soon be a " thing 

 of the past." I see it disappearing from nurserymen's lists, 

 and yet I have a lively recollection of a box of twelve blooms 

 that I out from the vicar of Caunton's garden and exhibited 

 at Newark, and which I have hardly ever seen surpassed. I 

 put Thomas Methven in my list this year because I have 



had some wonderfully fine blooms this summer, with more 

 substance of petal and more laBting than any Rose I almoBt 

 ever cut. I have been obliged to discard Monsieur Noman. 

 though there is no more beautiful pink Rose under glass or in 

 fine weather ; but the quality of the petal is so flimsy that the 

 least rain or damp glues the buds up so that they cannot open. 

 I fancy Monsieur Noman would do best on a south border, 

 where it could have plenty of sun and air, and yet be protected 

 from north and east winds. 



Having entered on the subjeot of Roses I find I have 

 wandered from my text, which was to back up Mr. Hinton 

 against " Wyld Savage ;" not but that I have a certain de- 

 gree of fellow feeling for the " Savage " if he thought the 

 list was to be made only with reference to the exhibition 

 table when he saw some of his favourite Teas degraded ; and 

 certainly in some of the lists (and as there are a great number 

 I need not be personal) there is a wide variety of taste dis- 

 played — " Everyone to his own taste," as the old woman said, 

 when Ehe kissed her donkey — and I am convinced that this 

 list of Roses will help many persons to form their judgments 

 as to the Roses best suited for their own gardens or in their 

 own neighbourhood. — C. P. P. 



TKOP^EOLUM SPECIOSUM. 

 Relative to the hardiness of Tropasolum Bpeciosum, noticed 

 by " A Rambler " in the Journal of the 5th inst., for upwards 

 of twenty years I had grown it as an herbaceous plant, and a& 

 such have exhibited it at gardening competitions with success^ 

 So freely does it grow with me, that a narrow border along a 

 wall, up which it climbs on trellises (cords do well for the 

 purpose) and flowers profusely, is literally matted with rootlets. 

 When once fairly established it is not easily destroyed; but few 

 real florists I should think would care for parting with such a 

 gem. The Eeverest winters have never done the plants any 

 iDJury, and if protected with a few Spruce branches the old 

 shoots remain active during winter, and push forth flowers 

 early in the season. From the month of May to Novem- 

 ber the rich scarlet flowers produced a blaze oJ beauty un- 

 equalled by any other climber. I have had it growing among 

 Bhrubs, and the plants rambling over evergreen bushes have 

 produced a brilliant effect among the green leaves. At present- 

 Tropoaolum speciosum is in perfection, and one of my brightest 

 floral ornaments. — Thomas Nicol, Balgonie, Fifeshire. 



NURSERYMEN'S VOTES IN ELECTION OF 

 ROSES. 





Mr. B. Cant, St. 



John Street Nursery, Colchester. 



1 



Alfred Colomb 



26. Elie Morel 



2 



Baronne de Rothschild 



27. Emilie HauBburg 



8. 



Charlea Lefebvre 



28. Fisher Holmes 



4 



Dote of Wellington 



29. Francois Lnnvat 



5. 



Ferdinand de Lesseps 



80. Hippolyte Flandrin 



6. 



Francois Michelon 



31. John Hopper 



7. 



Horace Vernet 



82. La Duchesse de Morny 



8. 



La France 



S3. Madame Hippolyte Jam&ixi 



9. 



Louis Van Houtte 



84. Madame Victor Verdier 



10. 



Madame C. Wood 



85. Maurice Bernardin 



11. 



Marie Bady 



36. Mdlle. Marie Cointet 



12. 



Marie Ban. maun 



37. Mdlle. Marie Finger 



18. 



Marguerite de St. Amsn<! 



8*. Pierre Notting 



14. 



Marquise de Casteliano 



39. Prince Arthur 



15. 



Monsieur Noman 



40. Prince Camilla de Rohan 



16. 



Etienne Levet 



41. Princess Beatrice 



17. 



Villa de Lyon. 



42. Sophie Coquerel 



18. 



Devoniensis 



43. Thomas Mills 



19. 



Marechal Niel 



44. Xavier Olibo 



2D. 



Souvenir d'Elise 



45. Catherine Mermet 



46. Marie Van Hontte 



21. 



Comtesse d' Oxford 



47. Madame Willermoz 



22. 



Duchesse de Cajlus 



48. Niphetos 



23. 



Duke of Edinburgh 



49. Ruben b 



24. 



Dr. Andry 



60. Souvenir d'un Ami 



25. 



Dupuy Jamain 





Mr, J. Crakstoh, 



1. Alfred Colomb 



2. Baronne de Rothschild 



3. Charles Lefebvre 



4. Comtesse d'Oxford 



5. Duke of Edinburgh 



6. Exposition de Brie 



7. Horace Vernet 



8. La France 



9. Louis Van Houtte 



10. Madame G. Schwartz 



11. Marguerite de St. Amand 



12. Marie Baumann 



13. Marquise de Castellan e 



King's Acre, Hereford. 



14. Etienne Levet 



15. Prince Camille de Bohr.- 



16. Senateur Vaisse 



17. Sir Garnet Wolseley 



18. Catherine Mermet 



19. DevonienBis 



20. Man 'clial Niel 



21. Annie Wood 



22. Annie Laxton 



23. Capitaine Christy 



24. Comtesse de Chabrillant 



25. Comtesse de Serenyi 



