November 1, 1877. J 



JOURNAL OF HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER. 



341 



41. 



Reynolds Hole 



45. Madame Lacharme 



42. 



Prioress Beatrice 



4*1. Maurice Bernardia 



43. 



Pierre Noiticg 



47. EmiUe Hausburg 



44. 



Edward Morren 



48. Anna Olivier 





"A County D 



DBLIN AlTATEUK." 





Best foity-eight exhibition Roses. 



1. 



La France 



7. Alfred Colomb 



2. 



Francois MicheTon 



S. Dr. Andry 



3. 



Baronne de Rothschild 



9. Madame Yictor Yerdier 



4. 



Duke of Edinburgh 



10. Marecbal Niel 



5. 



Charles Lefebvre 



11. Mdlle. Eugenie Yerdier 



6. 



Marie Baumann 



12. Catherine Mermet 



13. 



Marquise dc Cistellane 



19. Lou's Yan Hontte 



14. 



EtieDn^ Levet 



20. Sir Garnet Wolseley 



15. 



Marquisa de Mortemarfc 



21. Dopuy-Jamain 



16. 



Due de Rohan 



22. Victor Yerdier 



17. 



Beauty o( "Waltham 



23. Annie Laxton 



18. 



Marguerite de St. Amand 



24. Camille Bernardia 



25. 



John Hopper 



87 Xavier Olibo 



26. 



President Willermoz 



SS. John S. Mill 



27. 



Cbeshunt Hybrid 



39. Richard Wallace 



28. 



Thomas Mills 



40. PrioceBS Beatrice 



29. 



Senateur Yaisse 



41. Souvenir d'un Ami 



30. 



Mdlle. Marie Rady 



42. Centiiolia Rosea 



81. 



Marecbal Yaillant 



43. Madame Charles Wood 



32. 



Comtesse d'Oxford 



44. Rubens 



53. 



Madame H. Jamain 



45. Madame Lacharme 



34. 



Mons. E. Y. Teas 



46. Lffilia 



35. 



Ferdinand de Lesseps 



47. Abel Grand 



36. 



Princess Mary of Cambridge 



43. Madame Willermoz 





Mr. Joseph His 



ton, Warminster. 



Best forty-eight exhibition Roses in order of merit. 



S. 



4. 



5. 



6. 

 18. 

 14. 

 15. 

 16. 

 17. 

 18. 

 25. 

 ■26. 

 27. 

 28. 

 29. 

 SO. 

 31. 

 32. 

 33. 

 34. 

 35. 

 S6. 



Mareehal Niel 

 Marie Baumann 

 Catherire Mermet 

 Francois Michelon 

 La FraDce 



Baronne de Rothschild 

 Emilie Hausburg 

 Dr. Andry 

 Marie Finger 

 Marquise de Castellane 

 Camille Bernardin 

 Marie Bady 

 Duke of Edinburgh 

 John Hopper 

 Duchesse de Caylus 

 Ferdioand de Lesseps 

 General Jacqueminot 

 Duke of Wellington 

 Madame Victor Verdier 

 Beauty of "Waltbam 

 Dupuy-Jamain 

 Devienne Lamy 

 Louis Van Houtte 

 Madame Bravy 



7. Charles Lefebvre 



8. Pierre NottiDg 



9. Al 'rid Colomb 



10. Triomphe de Kennes 

 1'. Souvenir d'un Ami 

 12. Baron de Bonstetten 

 19. Etienne Levet 



20. 

 21. 



Comtesse d'Oxford 

 Marquise de Mortemart 



22. Horace Vemet 



23. Devoniensis 



24. Muns. E. Y. Teas 



37. Gloire de Dijon 



38. Edward Morren 



39. Madame Lacharme 



40. Mdlle. Eugenie Verdier 



41. Marguerite de St. Amand 



42. Lord Maeaulay 



43. Marie Cointet 



44. President Willermoz 



45. Xavier Olibo 



46. Prince de Portia 



47. Victor Verdier 



48. Centifolia Rosea 



Rev. C. H. Bdlmeb, Credenhill Rectory, Hereford. 

 Best forty-sight exhibition Roses. 



1. Alfred Colomb 



2. Charles Lefebvre 

 S. La France 



4. Etienne Levet 



5. Barcrne de Rothschild 



6. Marie Baumann 



7. Marquise de Castellans 



a o J Mdlle. Eugenie Verdier 

 \ Marie Finyer 

 9. Dupuy-Jaaiaiu 



10. Louis Van Houtte 



11. Francois Bdicbelon 



12. ComteBse d'Oxford 



13. Mareehal Niel 



14. Marie Rady 

 15." Dr. Andry 



16, Emilie Hausburg 

 ( Abel Grand 

 a 17. \ Marguerite de St. Amand 



\ Princess Mary of Cambridge 



18. Xavier Olibo 



19. Star of Waltham 



' Exposition de Brie 

 Ferdinand de Lesseps 

 «20. ' Maurice Bernardin 

 I Sir Garnet Wolseley 

 21. Duke of Edinburgh 



22. Madame Victor Verdier 



23. Edward Morren 



24. Duke of Welliogton 



25. Monsieur Noman 



26. Horace Vernet 



27. Capitaine Christy 

 i8. Elie Morel 



29. Senateur Vaisse 



30. Beauty of Waltham 



31. Marquise de Gibot 



32. Reynolds Hole 



33. Annie Laxton 



34. John Hopper 



6 35. Madame Fnrtado 



36. La Rosiere 



37. Jules Margottin 



38. General Jacqueminot 



39. Monsieur E. Y. Teas 



40. E. Stuart Mill 



41. Madame Therese Levet 



42. Hadinie Hippolyte Jamain 



43. Thomas Mills 



44. Madame Charles Wood 



45. Mdlle. Annie Wood 



46. DucbeBse de Moray 



47. Marie Van Houtte 



48. Catherine Mermet 



Savage" and myaelf in the earlier days of this election. 

 Finding it met with opposition, and now acknowledging 

 that from my natural infirmity of " thickness in the clear" I 

 did not exactly express what I meant, I withdrew the propo- 

 sition, fearing it might, if misunderstood, imperil the genuine 

 character of the election. Several electors have touched upon 

 the topic, some merely naming one or other of these Roses, 

 pointedly saying the vote was to be given to the named Rose, 

 not the other; others, like my friend Mr. Beachey, enlarging 

 on the reasons for preference of one over another, but Mr. Bnl- 

 mer's list and his request bring the matter rather to a crisis. 

 L.9t me state how I did act as regards these votes in Mr. B ai- 

 mer's list. In every case of Bimilar bracketed Roses I gave the 

 vote, for it is plain there is only one vote to be given in each 

 case to the Rose already standing highest on the list. It so 

 happened that Mr. Bulmer's list was nearly the last received, 

 and so the matter was easy. 



Of course all of us think very highly of our own ideas — as Sam 

 Slick would say, " 'tis human natur;" but it seems to me it 

 would be wise to settle this little point, and argue out the 2>ros 

 and cons. I believe that in this present election we have not, 

 for this very reason, arrived at the correct position of these 

 similar Roses. Granted that they can often be distinguished 

 '.' one from t'other and t'other from whioh," yet it must also be 

 confessed that often, more often, " Ciesar and Pompey are so 

 very much alike, especially Pompey," that identification utterly 

 fails as far as the bloom alone is concerned, certainly to the 

 ordinary Rose-grower, and even, I fancy, occasionally to the 

 very best judge. Why, then, should not, for the purposes of 

 election, this matter be allowed? Precedent is not wanting, 

 as in the case of Lrelia and Louise Peyronny. 



I cannot resist giving my opinion, based on the numerous 

 returns I have now for some years waded through, that these 

 similar Koses scarcely attain their right position ; for instance, 

 Marie Finger and Eugenie Verdier. I can understand a 

 person saying, " I cannot put two Roses so similar in my forty- 

 eight. I choose Marie Finger, it comes beBt ; " but another 

 reasons exactly in the same way as regards Eugenie Verdier. 

 Here, then, are two similar Roses that receive only one vote 

 each, whilst these same electors each vote for some dozen 

 Roses, like Marie Baumann and Marfiohal Niel, which thus 

 score two votes. Let this be repeated only three or four times 

 amongst forty electors, and the result will very materially 

 modify the position they would otherwise attain. 



Let me now stale briefly how I think the difficulty may be 

 met. Confession is said to be good for the soul, and I confess 

 I erred in saying at the onset all votes for either of these 

 similar Roses would be given to a named one ; it was, in fact, 

 taking my opinion of the merits as the correct one, and I 

 properly received castigation for the same. I propose, there- 

 fore, that for purposes of election laelia and Louise Peyronny; 

 Alba Rosea and Madame Bravy; Marie Finger and Eugenie 

 Verdier ; Ferdinand de L9Bseps, Maurice Bernardin, and Expo- 

 sition deBrio; BaronPrevost and Colonel de Rougemont ; &o. — 

 one Rose, and that whichever the elector prefer — should be 

 named, then the returning officer might publish his list thus : — 



I These figures denoting the 

 10 — 10 — 17 = 37 ] votes in both twelves and 

 the next twenty-four. 



18 



Eugenie Verdier 



6 — 6 — 10 = 22 



Marie Finger 



'inger f 

 7=15 J 



a These varieties are bracketed only for the purposes of an election, not 

 for the Rose catalogue or exhibition box. 



6 This variety (35) holds its place from the good qualities of colour, form, 

 freshness, and perfume, also beauty of foliage and certainty on the maiden 

 Manetti, in elector's county early boxeB being rarely without it. 



K.B. — Dark Roses of the Boncenne school have been purposely excluded, 

 as seldom exhibited through opening badly or burning, though admittedly 

 indispensable when in form. 



I have been particular in closing the lists of the amateurs 

 with that of the Rev. C H. Bulmer's, because the list and the 

 note attached thereto, coupled with his request that it may 

 be printed as sent, opens up a question mooted by " Wtld 



24 



Ferdinand de Lesseps 



3 — 3 — 7 = 13 



Maurice Bernardin 



2 — 4 — 5 = 11 



Exposition de Brie 



2—1—4=7 



7 — 8 — 16 = 31 



Such a plan would not only show us the most generally use- 

 ful of the similar Roses, and thus be a guide to those able only 

 to have a limited number of varieties, but by the collective 

 vote these similar Roses would all stand higher. Such arrange- 

 ment would further admit into the charmed circle of the forty- 

 eight some Roses that, as the Rev. C. H. Bulmer says, we 

 desire to see there ; for when it comes to the last few votes, 

 how difficult it is to balance the respective merits, and how 

 many favourites are left out in the cold — with regret, deep 

 regret. Mr. Beachey writes, " Many of the newer Roses are 

 so good that they cannot be omitted, and yet for auld acquain- 

 tance' sake, if for nothing else, how can one have the heart to 

 give the cold shoulder to such dear old valued and faithful 

 friends as Senateur Vaisse, Pierre Notting, Gloire de Dijon (I 

 must just slip in the last-named before the door is closed), 

 Abel Grand, Lselia, Madame Bravy, and such like?" Other 



