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JOURNAL OF HORTICULTURE AND COTTAGE GARDENER. 



[ December 19, 1872. 



60 



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62 

 63-j 



64-! 



Name of Rose. 



Lyonnais 



Madame Bellon 



Lord Clyde 



Gloire de Santenay 



Caroline de Sansal 



Baron G-onella 



Capitaine Lamure 



Miss Ingram 



Mons. Boncenne 



Nardy Freres 



Madame Margottin 



President Thiers 



Baronne de Maynard 



Madame Liabaud 



Madame Cbirard 



Etienne Levet 



Madame Lesfelrrre Bernard 



A 



B 



C 



A* 



IB* 



C* 



1 





1 





4 



4 





1 



1 





4 



4 





3 



3 





2 



2 





3 



3 





2 



2 





4 



A. 





1 



1 





3 



3 





2 



2 





2 



2 





3 



S 





5 



5 











4 



4 





1 



1 





9, 



2 





3 



8 





4 



4 





1 



1 



1 





1 



3 





4 



1 



2 



3 





1 



1 



1 



1 



2 





2 



2 



1 



1 



2 





2 



4 

 4 



2 



1 

 4 



Seventeen Roses received four votes; twenty-two received 

 three votes, amongst these Prince de Portia and Princess 

 Beatrice, these Roses having one vote out of the three, placing 

 theni in the first twelve ; twenty-eight were named twice, 

 Andre Durand and President Willernioz each receiving one 

 first-class vote ; seventy-eight were noticed only once, amongst 

 them Vicomtesse de Vezins, &c. 



Yicomtesse de Yezins and Madame " Augusta " Verdier were 

 named once only, in each case as amongst the best twelve. The 

 latter, mentioned by an anonymous correspondent from Bury 

 St. Edmunds, and described by him as " a grand Rose, keeps 

 its colour so well," I cannot find in any catalogue ; as both 

 Madame Victor and Mdlle. Eugenie Verdier are also mentioned 

 in the same fifty, I cannot suggest any explanation of the error, 

 if error it be. This correspondent has to more than half of his 

 selected fifty attached reasons for the faith that is in him, so 

 that it is hardly a haphazard selection. 



This point leads me to mention another eircuinstanee — viz., 

 the names of Roses. Mr. G. E. Barrell writes, " Can nothing 

 be done to impress on raisers the desirability oiimproving the 

 present absurd-mode of nomenclature ? Why should -we have 

 some nine or ten Roses named after various members of the 

 'Verdier' family, five or sis 'Woods,' &c, rendering confusion 

 worse confounded ? let alone the fact that not unfrequently 

 we have one brought out of identically the same name as a 

 predecessor some years before." This is, indeed, a crying 

 evil, and is a fertile source of error. I notice, too, that the 

 catalogues also differ in the names they give to the same Rose. 



A few words on the table of the fifty Roses. I received in 

 all twenty-seven replies from amateurs or their gardeners, and 

 sixteen from nurserymen. Of the latter, one received from 

 Mr. Kirk Allen, the Nurseries, Brampton, Huntingdon, on the 

 2nd of December, I was forced to set aside, not because it was 

 late, for I received three other lists at the same time, but be- 

 cause more than fifty Roses were named, and there was no 

 time left for alterations ; this I regret. This leaves forty-two 

 electors, in the proportion nearly of two to one as regards 

 amateurs and nurserymen ; and as the voting is kept se- 

 parately, and the provision for a scrutiny of the ballot is per- 

 fect and open to all, by the addition of the full lists, it is open 

 to " Sexateue Vaisse " and others to make their own con- 

 clusions. 



By these forty-two electors no less than 249 Roses have 

 been named more or less frequently in the fifty ; one alone has 

 been named by everyone, and that honour belongs to our tried 

 friend and truly grand Rose Charles Lefebvre ; he is, however, 

 closely pressed by several. John Hopper is named by every 

 amateur in the fifty ; whilst Marechal Niel, Alfred Colomb, 

 Madame Rothschild, La France, Marie Baumann, Comtesse 

 d'Oxford, and Duke of Edinburgh are named by all the nur- 

 serymen. Comtesse d'Oxford, Marquise de Castellane, for Roses 

 of 1870, have come well to the front, and, I think, richly deserve 

 their honours. The latter would not have fared so well but 

 for the Wiltshire votes ; amongst us it is a great favourite, and 

 those who had the pleasure of seeing thirty-six blooms of this 

 Rose exhibited by Mr. H. Bennett, of Stapleford Nurseries, at 

 the Frome Rose Show this year, are not likely soon to forget 

 it. Louis Van Houtte and Mdlle. Eugenie Verdier also stand 

 well ; the former would be the better for a little more stuff 

 in it, but both are splendidly-coloured flowers. Whether 

 Emilie Hausburg is as forward as Mr. Peach expected it to 

 he I cannot say ; but though standing 26 in order of merit, 

 no less than sixteen out of the twenty-four votes received 

 place it in the best twelve. To my mind it is a most lovely 

 Rose ; but — ah ! there it comes — but, does it like a hard 



winter ? I fear not. Some few Roses we amateurs do not value 

 at the same rate as eur brethren in the trade, notably Horace 

 Yemet, Louise Peyronny, and Madame Vidot ; the latter I 

 have seen grown magnificently by nurserymen, but I must 

 confess my utter inability to grow it much larger than a beau- 

 tiful diminutive Ranunculus. 



In regard to the best twelve out of the fifty, sixty-eight 

 Roses have been named. A reference to the table will show 

 that, though John Hopper stands No. 4 in the general total, 

 amongst the twelve he would have to go down several steps. 

 I may draw attention here to the fact that President Thiers, 

 one of the new Roses, has been named four times only, but in 

 every instance amongst the best twelve — viz., by an anony- 

 mous correspondent at Ripon, and by those good rosarians, 

 Messrs. Paul & Sons, of Cheshunt, Mr. J. Cranston, of Here- 

 ford, and Mr. John Durbin, of Englishcombe, near Bath, so 

 that we may calculate that this Rose will be an acquisition. 

 Madame Bellon? Belle Lyonnaise, Etienne Levet, and Madame 

 Lefebvre Bernard also received fair support from the nur- 

 serymen; Mr. R. B. Cant, of Colchester, adding, "I should 

 have liked to have included amongst the fifty-three, new ones 

 which I have a high opinion of, but think it better to wait 

 another year. Madame Bellon and Etienne Levet I feel cer- 

 tain ought to be amongst the best fifty, and may, probably, 

 even get a further advance another year. The three new ones 

 are Souvenir de Paul Neron, T., Baron de Prailly, and Madame 

 Lefebvre Bernard, H.P." This Tea Rose is named by that 

 -veteran rosarian, Mr. J. Keynes, amongst his twelve best Teas, 

 and in his fifty. 



In the election of best Tea Roses, &a., the same division 

 has been adopted ; there are, however, some differences. Mr. 

 Kirk Allen's list of Teas is added, and Mr. Proctor considers 

 his locality unsuitable, and sent no list : the number of nur- 

 serymen's lists is, therefore, the same. In the amateurs' there 

 is one less — viz., twenty-six, or forty-one voters in all. The 

 poll is as follows : — 



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12 

 13 

 14 

 15 

 16 

 17 

 18 



Name of Eose. 



Devoniensis 



Marechal Kiel 



G-loire de Dijon 



Souvenir d'un Ami . . 



Souvenir d'Elise 



Madame Yvillermoz . . 

 Triomphe de Eennes 



Niphetos 



Celine Forestier 



Madame Margottin . . 



Belle Lyonnaise 



Adam 



Madame Falcot 



Catherine Mermet 



Alba Eosea 



Enbens 



Clot.li of Gold 



Lamarqne 



Madame Bravy 



President 



Madame Levet 



Solfaterre 



Votes. 

 Amateurs. 



Totes. 

 Nurserymen. 



25 

 25 

 24 

 22 

 20 

 16 

 16 

 11 

 15 

 15 

 10 

 9 

 7 

 S 

 5 

 5 

 7 



15 

 14 

 12 

 13 

 8 

 9 

 8 

 13 



36 

 35 

 28 

 25 

 24 

 24 

 21 

 21 

 18 

 14 

 14 

 13 

 13 

 11 

 10 

 9 

 8 

 7 

 6 



Marie Sisley, Safrano, and Madame de St. Joseph each re- 

 ceived four votes, seven received three votes, fifteen received 

 two votes, and-the remainder one vote each. Of the newer 

 Tea Roses, Madame Marie Van Houtte, Souvenir de Paul 

 Neron, and Mdlle. Ceeile Berthod received two votes each, the 

 two latter receiving a vote from Mr. Keynes ; indeed, he places 

 the last of the three in his best fifty Roses. Mr. Durbin also 

 places this Rose amongst the best Teas. Coupling this with 

 Mr. Cant's remark, we may hope that amongst these three 

 there will be a useful addition to our list of Teas. Mr. George 

 Prince also votes for Souvenir de Paul Neron. Of the Teas, 

 as amongst the general list, we amateurs seem to undervalue 

 certain Roses — viz., Niphetos, Alba Rosea, President, and 

 Rubens, whilst Belle Lyonnaise has nearly as many votes from 

 the nurserymen as from us. 



I come now to the voting on the last point, the selection of 

 the best Rose for all purposes. My own belief was, that the 

 voting on this question would have been almost unanimous in 

 favour of Gloire de Dijon. Great was my surprise in noting 

 that the first nine or ten returns gave him only three votes. 

 However, the later returns have placed that useful old Rose 

 well at the head. 



In replying to this question some appear to have found diffi- 

 culty. Mr. Baker says he cannot, there being " many Roses 

 which are equal favourites of mine ;" whilst one of our oldest 



