22 Olf RECEN'T DISCOYEETES 12f THE STJBMEEGED EOEEST OF TORBAY. 



DiscTrssio]!f. 



Dr. H. Woodward said that it was interesting to find that the 

 copper ingots exhibited by the author closel}^ resembled ingots of 

 the same metal obtained by llr. PengeUy from Kent's Cavern. The 

 potter}' from the two locaUties was also similar. 



Prof. T. Etjpeet Jo:nt;s doubted the palaeolithic age of the flint- 

 flakes. Similar flakes have been found on the surface in many parts 

 of southern England, and are by no means of palaeolithic age. 



Prof. T. II'K. Htjghes said that one of the most interesting points 

 connected with the paper was the explanation of a "submerged 

 forest " without the necessity for any submergence. He quite 

 agreed with the author that the damming back of the sea and the 

 growth of trees below high-water mark behind the dam, furnished 

 a probable explanation of the phenomena. The occurrence of the 

 two clays described might indicate two diff'erent periods, and sub- 

 mergence might have occurred between them. The evidence of the 

 chips was not of much value, as they might be of any age. The 

 pottery appeared to be British. 



Mr. Blai^eord agreed with the author in his main views, but 

 wished to point out one difficulty. The supposed tin-smelting 

 hearths were some 10 feet below high-water mark, and the ground 

 must have been too wet for smelting, if not actually below water. 



Mr. ToPLET expressed his general agreement with the author; 

 but remarked that similar opinions, as to the recession of shingle- 

 beaches and the formation of " submerged forests " without sub- 

 sidence, had been put forward by Mr. Yates, Col. Greenwood, and 

 others. Where the forest-growth, however, extended to or below 

 low-water mark, he thought subsidence must have occurred. 



The Author thanked Dr. Woodward for his remarks, and for the 

 access he had given him to similar ingots in the Natural History 

 Museum. He had used the term " palaeolithic" merely to indicate 

 the type of the flint fragments. He stated that his paper answered 

 Mr. Pengelly, who thought that there had been a submergence of 

 40 feet. With regard to the hearth he admitted the difficulty 

 pointed out by Mr. Blanford, for there was no doubt that this was 

 resting on head. 



