18 DEHYDRATION OF FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. 



Mr. HoRST. No, sir. You lost absolutely nothing but water, and 

 you can put the water back, but in putting it back, as I say, if you 

 are going to compare a vegetable with the water put back with the 

 same vegetable before it was dried, and eat the thing raw, you are 

 bound to be disappointed; but if you eat one cooked and the other 

 cooked you will like one just as well as the other, unless you get the 

 one fresh at the farm. 



Senator Ransdell. I am interested to know whether or not you 

 could still use these dried vegetables to make alcohol, if you desired ? 



Mr. HoEST. I believe they use it in Germany to a large extent that 

 way, but I do not know. 



Senator Eansdell. I imagine so, from what you said. 



Senator Gkonna. I am intensely interested in that, and I think the 

 material out of which the alcohol is made is the food product. I 

 think that is conceded, is it not? 



Mr. HoEST. That is a question, I am sorry to say, which is over 

 my head. 



Senator GnoxxA. What I was about to say is this: If it should ap- 

 pear that this very material out of which you could make alcohol dis- 

 appears I think that would be a tremendous loss in food value. 



The Chaieman. Mr. Horst, I wish you would file with your state- 

 ment these conversion figures, or ratios, the weight of the fresh vege- 

 table as compared with the dried vegetable. 



Mr. HoEST. I can give them to you in round figures. For instance, 

 potatoes, about 6 to 1 ; cabbage, about 20 to 1 ; tomatoes, about 20 to 

 1 ; spinach, about 18 to 1 ; turnips, 14 to 1 : carrots, about 9 to 1. That 

 gives you the general relation. 



Senator Noeeis. That is bulk? 



j\Ir. HoEST. In weight; and in cubic measurements you can take 

 your dried products and compress them so that the question of bulk 

 is entirely eliminated. We press cabbage, onions, spinach, and toma- 

 toes. I have a little brick of tomatoes here, which weighs seven 

 ounces, and five of those little bricks is equal to a 60-pound case of 

 canned tomatoes; and I have the chemist's report. on that quantitative 

 analysis to confirm those figures. 



Senator Smith of Georgia. Will you state what your interest in 

 the matter is, what your connection with the proposition is, barring 

 the interest we all have? 



Mr. HoEST. I will tell you my interest frankly. ' I have been in the 

 hop-growing business on the Pacific coast for the last 25 years and 

 upward, and I have raised as many as 28,000 bales of hops a year, 

 which is roughly several hundred times as many as the average hop 

 grower raises, and the hop business has declined. The British Gov- 

 ernment has put an embargo on the shipment of hops, and 35 per cent 

 of the hops used to go to England, and the American brewing busi- 

 ness has declined, and as a result there are more hops On hand than 

 people want, and I have a large number of hop kilns and farming 

 lands around these hop kilns. There are in the hands of other 

 farmers on the Pacific coast approximately 2,500 hop kilns, con- 

 structed on a different plan from mine, but they can be adapted to my 

 plans. All of these hop fields are in the very richest agricultural dis- 

 tricts, and if I could find another industry for the hop grower it 

 would be very good for the entire Pacific coast and it would be good 



