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although I have always tried to keep the Duke of Kent 

 strain of Black Orpingtons to the tight feather, as the 

 Standard calls for this." — David N. Foster. 



"Many specimens show too much fluff, but I seldom 

 see them too short in legs. In general, I see too many 

 long in legs — which is especially true of the Whites." — 

 Goodes and Palmer. 



"I think some breeders have carried the shortness of 

 legs a bit farther than the best good of the breed de- 

 mands." — H. B. Prescott. 



4. Do you think the revised American Standard of 

 Perfection, in placing more value on the shape and less on 

 the color of C'rpingtons, will prove of material benefit in 

 obtaining more uniform typo in exhibition specimens? 



Second Cockerel, Chicago, 190n. Bred and 



raised Dy Goodes & Palmer, Mar- 



cellus, Mich. 



"It should have been comprehended a long time ago 

 by the rank and file of Orpington breeders that the ut- 

 most value should be placed on shape and type, and the 

 question of color made a secondary consideration. A few 

 of the leading Orpington breeders were big enough to 

 realize this, and the day was saved for the Orpington. 

 All breeders who do any exhibiting at all must necessarily 

 see the necessity of keeping to the type, sooner or later. 

 This, and the position of the revised Standard of Perfec- 

 tion, will aid materially in establishing uniformity of type." 

 — A. L. (joodwin. 



"I have always championed type in Orpingtons in 

 preference to color. Get type first, then go after color. I 

 think the revision referred to above is a step in the right 

 direction." — H. H. Kingston, Jr. 



"Yes — and no. Yes, as to exhibition qualities; no, as 

 to shape, which is wrong now. The Standard shape, in 

 my judgment, is detrimental to the utilitarian qualities of 

 this breed. I prefer a little more length of body and legs, 

 for best results." — C. A. Moxley. 



"Decidedly, where judging is critical. After all, it will 

 always remain to some extent a matter of view point of 

 the individual judge." — Milton W. Brown. 



"I think shape and color go hand in hand, and I value 

 one about as much as the other— at least, I put color a 

 very close second. It is no easy trick to breed good col- 

 ored Orpingtons, and it is hard to value good color too 

 highly if combined with Orpington type. Once lost, it is 

 not easily gotten again."— E. A. Haring. , , , _ , 



"I believe the revised American Standard of Fertec- 

 tion should place more value on the shape of the Orping- 

 tons and less on color. It is the peculiar Orpington shape 

 which makes an exact and gratifying distinction. — Faul 

 Kyle. 



"Yes."— Archibald B. Dalby. , c ^ 



"I think both should be kept in sight, but the stand- 

 ard may help."— Henrietta E. Hooker. 



"Yes " C S Byers. 



"I believe' many breeders have lost ground on shape 

 of birds in their attempts to improve the color, and i ttimk 

 they would do well to breed for shape and size, and let 

 color go— that is, for the next five years; for I believe they 



will not lose much in color and will gain much in shape 

 and size." — E. B. Miller. 



"The revised American Standard of Perfection, in 

 placing more value on shape than on color, will, probably 

 bring better shaped birds to the show room; but I am 

 wondering if it will not be at the sacrifice of color. I have 

 seen better shaped Orpingtons, in my opinion, the past 

 year, than I have colored ones. The Bufif color is not 

 what I should like it to be, and if we are to drop color and 

 breed for shape, I think it is surely a serious mistake." — C. 

 E. Fisher. 



"Yes, by all means." — J. M. Williams. 



"1 think we should put all the value we can on shape, 

 and no less on color. Some specimens exhibited last 

 winter were small 'because of late hatches, but having been 

 housed early, they had better color. If we are going to 

 have Orpingtons, let's have them low and cobby, and un- 

 like Rocks and Langshans." — W. H. Gifford. 



"We should think it would help. The color gives us 

 less trouble than shape." — Goodes and Palmer. 



"I think it would be of greater benefit if more stress 

 were laid on shape than on color, as every one knows 

 what the color should be, while hardly any two judges 

 have the same type in mind when they are judging; and 

 the same is true with the different breeders. This is the 

 reason that a bird will score differently under different 

 judges. These things should be made very plain in the 

 Standard and judges should conform to the Standard, re- 

 gardless of what their opinion is as to how an Orpington 

 should look." — D. N. Foster. 



"I do. I consider shape of the first importance." — H. 

 B. Prescott. 



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