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woods upon official business„you charged for it and got your vouchi 

 did you ever put in more than two vouchers and get pay more th 

 twice ? 



A. That is more than I can tell you; I don't know. 



Q. It is suggested that you be asked to explain what there 

 about it. 



A. I want to explain to the committee that I went through t 

 woods quite a number of times when I didn't go wholly up 

 official business, and I didn't think it right to charge the State i 

 the expenses when I didn't go entirely on official business; I tried 

 make an inspection of the woods about once a year; I think with t 

 Omission of one year, during my term of office I did so; some of t 

 time I combined pleasure with my business and I may not ha 

 charged, deeming it not right to charge: unless I went expressly 

 official business. » 



Q. When you were partly on private business and partly on offic 

 business — 



A. (Interrupting.) I didn't say ■" private business; " I said son 

 times I went on a pleasure excursion and combined official busini 

 with it, and I may not have deemed it right to make a charge for 



Chairman Ryan. — We did not understand him to say he combin 

 private business with official business, but that he sometimes combin 

 pleasure with business. 



Q. Last night you said you were in the woods twice, once wi 

 Garmon and once with Mr. Knevals; did you put in a bill for each 

 those occasions and receive a voucher ? 



A.. I put in a bill for the* time; yes, I think so. 



Q. Will you swear you ever put in any other bill and received p 

 for going in any other time ? 



A. That I couldn't tell you from recollection. 



Q. If you put in only those two, Wb.at explanation do you ma 

 when you say you went in every year upon official business ? 



A. If you will try and not distort me so, I will endeavor to ansy 

 to the best of my ability; I made the statement that I tried to make 

 investigation or a visit over the woods once a year, and that, with t 

 exception of one year, I did do so; some years I went quite a numl 

 of times to different parts of the woods, and that I may have co 

 bined pleasure with it, at the same time looking after the matti 

 pertaining to the State, and I did not deem it right to make a char 

 on that account. 



Q. On the several occasions when you went into the woods did y 

 go beyond your own lumber jobs and look after your own affairs ? 



