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by the State to establish the park, to mate a satisfactory arrange- 

 ment with the owners of the private reserves, such as we have 

 briefly stated, and which shall at once permit the park to be formed 

 and the private reserve owners left undisturbed in the enjoyment of 

 rational privileges, so long as they act in accord with the State, 

 we believe that thus all difficulties with them can be overcome, and 

 that the ultimate purposes of the park can be fully accomplished at a 

 largely diminished cost. As to the lands held by the lumbermen, it is 

 essential that much of that area should be eventually owned by the 

 State. Not that it is necessary to buy it all at once, and in large 

 tracts, even supposing that it were offered for sale, but there should be 

 a method inaugurated, having for its object the gradual acquisition 

 of lands for the park, as opportunities arise." Then it speaks of 

 timbered land; the State should wait until the lumber was cut out 

 before the purchase was made. Now with such a report and such . 

 views, can you explain to the committee how you ever expected that a 

 park could be acquired by the State ? 



A. Let me understand; do you say that in that report we suggest 

 the lands first be lumbered over? 



Q. As I understand the report. 



A I don't so understand it; we were confronted with a difficulty — 



Q. (Interrupting.) Wait one moment; I say that is my inference 

 from what the report says; now, I ask you if my inference is correct? 



A. I think your inference iB wrong. 



Q. What is the true inference; what is the true position of that 

 report? 



Mr. Anibal. — If the committee will excuse me, I think there was a 

 bill proposed by this commission, accompanying this report, which in 

 substance — I think I have a copy of it here with me — 



Chairman Ryan.— - (Interrupting.) There is a copy of it in the book. 



Mr. Aotbal. — Which substantially embodies their suggestion as to 

 how they were to acquire the land. 



By Mr. Adams: 



Q. What is your position about it ? 



A. The position of the commission is exactly in accordance with 

 that report and the bill; if the committee will allow me, I think I can 

 give some explanation. 



By Chairman Ryan: 



Q. As to the bill which you offered ? 



A. No; as to the reason of coming to this conclusion from what the 

 counselor has just been reading. 



