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A I don't understand we might have employed experts. 



Q. You stated for want of money ? 



A. No, sir; I did not state for want of money; I said our appropria- 

 tions had been tied up, and that we were limited to certain numbers 

 of employes; that is what I said. 



Q. Where is there any statute or laws limiting you ? 



A. It was done in the appropriation bill. 



Q. Limiting you to how many ? 



A. To fifteen foresters, two inspectors, secretary, warden, assistant 

 warden. 



Q. Have you ever employed special agents for special work since 

 that time ? 



A. We have. 



Q. What objection was there to employing experts for the value of 

 this land there, if you had been employing them for other purposes ? 



A. We had a force that we considered adequate to do that matter, 

 the applications that you refer to came in later; that force had very 

 nearly completed, or was abont completing, the work that we had for 

 it, and we decided that we would use that same force for the estima- 

 tion of these lands, after they had completed the work that we had 

 laid out for them; we could see no particular reason for employing 

 experts, and if we had our appropriation that we had would not have 

 been a. drop in the bucket; these lands that were offered were in 

 small, detached parcels, and in order to know just what those are we 

 have, in many instances, got to make surveys or have got to employ 

 men to show the lines; it, isn't an easy matter to go into that Adiron- 

 dack wilderness and pick out a small lot of thirty acres that had not 

 been surVeyed out, that is part of a lot of 160 or 230 acres, of which 

 the lines were run some ninety yearfe ago, possibly, or possibly longer; 

 it is rather a difficult matter to do and will take time to do it; well, 

 every man who is conversant with the woods knows that to be a fact. 



Q. Now, my recollection is that there were about 10,000 acres 

 offered in large bodies; one 6,000, 2,000, 3,000; what is the objection 

 to have those examined ? 



A The 6,000 the counsel refers to was entirely outside of the park 

 lines. 



Q. It was within the forest preserve, wasn't it ? 



A. Tes. 



Q. What have the park lines to do with it then if the appropriation 

 was not to be within the park lines, the park laid out ? 



A. The 6,000, if I remember right, there never was any formal 

 application made for the sale of it; all we had was a letter saying that 



