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A. All the expenses of the office are paid by the Comptroller — 

 that is, the Comptroller audits the accounts, as I understand it. 



Chairman Kyan. — The money appropriated by the Legislature is in 

 the hands of the Treasurer ? 



A. Tes; we draw out of that for our expenses; the money we get 

 for trespasses we turn over to the State Treasurer and get a receipt 

 from him. 



Chairman By an. — That is understood perfectly. 



Q. I want to call your attention to one thing, at one time, it has 

 been suggested by examination, or at least I have heard the sugges- 

 tion that your secretary, Mr. Train, was absent some length of time, a 

 year ago; what length of time was he absent? 



A. That I couldn't tell you, exactly; his health was very poor, and 

 we granted him leave of absence, I should say for two or three 

 months. • 



Q. He went to Europe ? 



A. Yes. 



Mr. Adams. — I would like to inquire how that was pertinent ? 



Mr. Anibal. — It is simply the doings of the forest commission in a 

 brief way. 



Chairman Ryan. — Have we had any testimony before in regard to 

 this? 



Mr. Adams.— Not at all. 



Mr. Anibal. — I assume not, but my idea was this, it is simply but 

 one question, whether or no during his absence he was under pay, or 

 otherwise, from the State or forest commission,. that is all I wanted to 

 ask. 



Chairman Ryan. — We expected you would conduct the examination, 

 so called, so as to throw light on anything that has been brought 

 before the committee on the direct examination. We understand 

 if we allow this examination to go on, take in every conceivable subject 

 that may be attached' to the commission, we would never get ready to 

 report to the Legislature or anything, else. 



Mr. Anibali — I didn't suppose the committee would take exactly 

 that course, we assumed the counsel for the commission, Messrs. Fiero, 

 Hessberg and myself, that under this resolution this course has been 

 taken by us, much of it has been squinted at and we wished to give 

 a fair and full explanation of the doings and acts for the past five 

 years, as far as the committee will permit us to go, and it is with that 

 object in view solely that these things were put directly, as we under- 

 stood the scope of the resolution and the purpose for which the 

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