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A. We feel that the trespassing in the forest, as compared when we 

 came in, has been practically stopped, and I think that if the Court of 

 Appeals could have held with us that we could take the parties into 

 adjoining counties, we could, stop them altogether. 



Q. How in regard to fires, have they been substantially lessened ? 



A. The last five years the fires have been very small; very little fires 

 in the woods the last five years. 



By Chairman Ryan: 



Q. Especially in those places that were burned over before or 

 lumbered over? 



A. No, sir; the danger 6f fire to a place already burned over is far 

 in excess for one that has not been; it has been our experience in 

 the woods that when a fire has once been over a tract of land that it 

 will keep burning over until it is all gone, until everything is gone 

 that will burn; afire sweeping over a. piece of woods does not kill 

 everything, does not consume everything, but it causes what is left 

 green to dry up and then fires will start again there, no one knows 

 how; the piece that is burned over is a great deal more apt to catch 

 fire than one that has not been. 



Q. Are the trees in large tracts of this preserve resinous trees that 

 burn when they are green rather better than when they are dry ? - 



A. There is but very little danger in the woods and I don't know of 

 any tree in the woods that burns better when green than when it is 

 dry. 



Q. The large fires in the Rocky Mountains — the most dangerous 

 time of year for people to go tn the woods is in the summer when 

 they are green, the fire leaps from tree to tree ? 



A. We have not got that resinous pine in the Adirondacks; our tree 

 most apt to catch fire is the spruce tree, but I don't think the same 

 condition applies to that; there is very little pine in the Adirondack 

 wilderness; there are cases of tracts of pine, small groves, but never 

 of any great quantity. 



By Mr. Anibal: 



Q. The bill that you speak about with reference to trying these 

 cases for trespasses and depredations of land, trying in adjoining 

 counties, did the forest commission have that bill drawn? 



A. Yes, sir; we had it drawn and it was passed last year at our 

 instigation; the Court of Appeals decided it was unconstitutional, in a 

 suit brought by the game and fish commission; I wish to make an 

 explanation in regard to this mfcp, the counsel, Mr. Adams, called my 

 attention and the attention of the committee to the dark green as 



