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A. They were under my direction so far as my calling uppn them 

 to do any special work; they have been also ordered from the office 

 for examination of lands, etc., but I could call on them at any time. 



Q. What were your special duties; define them more specifically? 



A. My special duties were to look after trespasses to the end to 

 stopping the cutting of timber on the State lands. 



Q. What did you direct the foresters to do ? 



A. I directed them to look up trespasses on State lands, and then I 

 would call on them to go in and measure up timber on trespasses 

 established; served in that capacity where timber was improved — 

 measure the stumps and tops to get the measurement of the amount 

 of timber in a great many cases. 



Q. Did you have any written orders or directions from the 

 commission ? i 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. And where are they? 



A. You will find minutes of them on the book of minutes, I think. 



Q. Did you ever receive any other written orders than appear on 

 the book of minutes ? 



A. I couldn't say. ' 



Q. From whom did you receive verbal directions ? 



A. From the forest commission. 



Q. In their meetings ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Did you ever receive any out of the meeting ? 



A. I don't know that I did; I don't remember now; I perhaps did, 

 if I met either of the commissioners and happened to talk with them 

 about it — I may have talked with them about it, but I don't recollect 

 receiving any orders except in the commission. 



Q. When you received these instruction that appear upon the 

 minutes, and verbal instructions in the meetings, did you make 

 reports? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. And how were these reports made ? 



A. In both ways, writing and verbally. 



Q. How many written reports did you ever make ? 



A. I can't tell you. 



Q. Did you look after trespasses personally ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. To what extent ? 



A. "It is hard telling to what extent; in the first place, I was on the 

 border of Herkimer county, and there was considerable trespassing 



