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Q. How long were you there then ? 



A. I was there over night and until about noon of the next day. 



Q. Who is the forester of Herkimer county ? 



A. It would come in Studer's district, properly. 



Q. Is there any agent down there to help Studer ? 



A. No, sir; but it is fair to say that there is an agent there now, 

 who is "laying" for two or three sneak thieves there; special man. 



Q. How long has he been there? 



A. Two to three weeks. 



Q. What is his name ? 



A. Loren Kelly. 



Q. Did you hear or have any information that somebody would go 

 around on the State land to see whether trespasses had been committed 

 and word was sent in advance, whereupon they would all stop, and 

 there was nothing done, and then timber would be cut and drawn 

 again? 



A. I know something of it. 



Q. Tou have heard of it ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Do you read the New York papers ? 



A. Some of them; I have been reading the Herald along back. 



Q. Have you read the Sun, a very excellent Democratic paper ? 



A. I occasionally read it. 



Q. What do you say to this information from the Herald of the 

 liwenty-first of February, that thousands of feet of lumber have been 

 taken from the State lands through Dolgeville, and that extensive 

 trespasses are going on there constantly and have been all winter ? 



A. I say it is not true. 



Q. How do you know it is not true if you haven't been there ? 



A. I have been up there a while ago; this Mr. Keller that I have 

 had dealings with waB here and I had a talk with him the week before, 

 and then I had him arrange to go in and pick up a few fellows. 



Q. You have not been there yourself ? 



A. No, sir. 



Q. How do you know these depredations have not been committed 

 if you haven't been there ? 



A. I know because I have the report 



Q. You know it because this agent says so ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. That is the only way you know it ? 



A. I know it from — 



