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Q. (Interrupting.) How do you know lie is not in collusion with 

 those men and aiding them in getting in this timber ? 



A. I know because they have been stealing his timber severely for 

 the last year or two. 

 Q. How do you know that ? 

 A. From what he has told me. 



Q. Tou rely upon his word rather than upon common rumor ? 

 A. Yes, you are quite right. 

 Q. All you know is what this forester tells you? 

 A. No, sir; I was going to tell you what other men told me — that 

 they agree. 

 Q. In what district is Minerva, Essex county, and Long Lake ? 

 A. I don't know in what district it is; what district do you say? 

 •Q. Who is the forester? * 



A. Mr. Powers. 



Q. Did you give me his name before ? 

 A. No, sir. 



Q. What did Powers have charge of ? 



A. He had charge of the land in Minerva and Newcomb and the 

 surrounding country, and he had been to Long Lake a good deal; 

 when he is there, he is off of his district proper. 

 Q. When were you over in that section of country ? 

 A. Last season was the last time. I was there. 

 Q. When were you there before that time ? 

 A. I can't tell you that; back of that I was there a great deal. 

 Q. Did you ever hear that Powers had been complained of for taking 

 timber, and his name is entered on the complaint or trespass book at 

 the commissioners' office ? 

 A. I know all about it. 



Q. Powers is a brother-in-law of Mr. Hurlburt over at Long Lake. 

 A. No, sir; Mr. Butler. 



Q. Butler is on the complaint book for trespass to a large extent ? 

 A. No, he is on for trespasses upon two lots; Mr Butler was on for 

 a trespass five years ago, in the first place, over in the vicinity of 

 Minerva; when I speak of the two trespasses now I mean at Long 

 Lake just recently. 

 > Q. Do you know Shaw over there ? 

 A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Did you ever hear that Shaw was opposing a scheme for raising 

 $12,000 in the town to help build a town house or tavern or hall ? 

 A. Yes, Shaw told me he opposed it. 

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