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A. Not to examine them to any great extent. 



Q. Did you make any report to the forest commission in regard to 

 this land, or on the subject of the land in Herkimer county ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. When? 



A. I can't tell'you the date; sometime in August or September. 



Q. In 1890 ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. How came you to make a report in August or September, 1890, 

 to the forest commission as to the 12,000 acres ? 



A. They asked me; they directed me to. ( 



Q. Did you make the report without making an examination ? 



A. No, sir; I had made examination — 



Q. (Interrupting.) Did you make a report without making an 

 examination ? # 



A. What is an " examination " ? 



Q. You know what an examination of lands is as well as I do ? 



A. Do you mean having looked over the land ? 



Q. Do you say you made a report at that time on this land without 

 having examined it ? ^ 



A. No, sir; I had examined it; I don't say any such thing. 

 • Q. Did you ever examine it with reference to making a report to 

 the forest commission ? 



A. No, sir. 



ty How came you to make a report without making an examination ? 



A, Because I knew the lands perfectly well; I had camped on them 

 for three weeks at the time of the Hurd trespass. 



Q. You made a report without going there ? 



A. Yes, sir; that would indicate trespass there, wouldn't it? 



Q. Did you make the report as to .the 26,000 acres without having 

 examined? ' 



A. Yes, without going there for that special purpose. 



Q. Do you state to this committee that the report you made to the 

 forest commission in July was made without having one to see these 

 lands. 



A. No, sir. 



Q. I mean specially to see them.? , 



A. Just at that time ? 



Q. Yes? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. When had you seen these lands to examine them ? 



A. You speak now of the 26,000 acres. 



