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the like of that — men who have some grudge against those men — 

 such men you can get to go on there, but the men who are friendly 

 with these men are not inclined to turn against them for a stranger. 



Q. Has the business of the foresters largely been in preventing this 

 sort of trespass as well as in looking it up ? 



A, Yes, 'sir; of course, it is their business. 



Q. Is it a part of their duty to patrol the woods and watch them ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Has that patroling been effectual and salutary ? 



A. Yes, sir; I think so; since the decision in the Turner case the 

 trespasses are a mere minimum. 



Q. You were asked in reference to your reporting as to the 26,000 

 acres whether you felt justified in reporting upon your knowledge 

 obtained three or four years ago and you said you did not, I believe; 

 what knowledge did you have ? 



A. That is the 12,000 acres; what I meant to say was that I wouldn't 

 make a report on seeing the land four years before, but after I had 

 seen them four years ago and was intimate with tbem, and had been 

 over them every year since two or three times, I was satisfied that 

 they were in the same condition; the lands in the fourteenth township 

 have depreciated for the reason that after we brought that suit 

 against the Northern Adirondack railroad, they were obliged to go 

 on and survey out these lots; the timber blows down badly; the rail- 

 road company has cut its land perfectly clean to burn coal with; clean 

 enough to sow grain on. 



Q. "You speak of well located timber — what do you call that ? 



A. A virgin forest anywhere from the bank of the stream two miles 

 back; you can average it that way. 



Q. What sort of a stream ? 



Q. A stream that will float the logs and run them out to the 

 thoroughfare where they can be manufactured; I call them well 

 located because it would be a moderate haul. 



Q. You know Mr. Powers, the forester ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. What is there about his name having been on the complaint 

 book originally, and what was done about it ? 



A. At the time of these trespasses which were committed when 

 the forest commission came into power, Mr. Powers and Mr. 

 Keyes had made arrangements on two lots — they had bought 

 this land of* the Bank of Glens Falls, but it had been sold to 

 the State at a tax sale; they had letters from Mr. Sanger, in the 

 Comptroller's office, saying that they could redeem the lots; after the 



