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A. Yes, sir. 



Q. They were on State lands ? 



A. Tes, sir. 



Q. No mistake about that? 



A. No, sir. 



Q. You knew Butler had cut them when you put them up for sale ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. And Mr. Garmon knew or heard he had cut them ? 



A. Yes, sir. 

 ' Q. Butler is a responsible man ? 



A. I don't know as to that; I should say not very. 



Q. Has he property in his hands ? 



A Not that I know of particularly. 



Q. Own and run a hotel there ? 



A No. 



Q. What does he do ? 



A. I guess he is lumbering a little there. 



Q. How long has he been in the lumber business ? 



A. I should say he has been in the lumber business since 1860, 

 probably. 



Q. Lumbered right along ever since ? 



A. No, sir; not all the time; he has been in the hotel business, mer- 

 chant, etc. 



Q. How much of the time? 



A. I should say he had been in the lumber business more or less all 

 the time, except, may be, from five to eight years. 



Q. Do you know any reason why this forest commission didn't come 

 down on Butler and make him pay one dollar and twenty-five cents 

 a thousand? 



A. I understood they were going to first sell and get what they 

 could out of the logs and prosecute Butler and get the balance. 



Q. Did Butler pay you for the logs ? 



A. No, sir; I sold the logs subject to the measurement by the Nor- 

 wood Lumber Company's market measurer, and as soon as he 

 measured the logs the bill of the logs and the check for the same was 

 to be sent to the forest commission here ; that was the conditions of 

 the sale. 



Q. When were the logs to be measured ? 



A. Tuesday. 



Q. Who told you that the foreBt commission were going to sell 

 the logs ? 



A. Mr. Butler. 



