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Q. Thirty thousand acres in all ? 

 , A. Yes, sir; .more than that in the three towns. 



Q. Has not the soft timber on the State lands in this vicinity been 

 taken away from the streams so it is not accessible ? 



A. Pretty much all the State land was lumbered over before it 

 reverted to the State; hardly any lands were let go back to the State 

 until they were lumbered over. 



Q. My question was if this is not true — that the accessible timber 

 near the streams on the State land has been cut off, and what lumber 

 or timber you speak of being left is away from the streams and diffi- 

 cult to get down and float ? ' 



A. Since it became State land ? 



Q. Yes, sir. , 



A. No, sir; I should not say it was. 



Q. Where is the timber situated with reference to the streams that 

 are usually used to float logs ? 



A. It is on the Boreas river and on the North river; it is on what 

 we call Minerva creek; it is up Long lake. 



Q. Upon those streams you have mentioned is there any consider- 

 able amount of this timber standing ? 



A. There is quite an amount of timber standing on the State lands. 



Q. I mean on the borders of these streams ? 



A. Yes, sir; there is quite an amount. 



Q. Most of it is back from the streams, isn't it? 



A. There is not a great difference; there may be more back from 

 the streams, because men in lumbering there the first time have left 

 some way back on the tops of the mountains, and that , has not been 

 cut over, and is really virgin forest, so I think there would be more 

 timber back from the streams. 



Q. These trespasses that occurred before 1885, and the trespasses 

 that have occurred since, haven't they occurred near the borders of 

 these streams ? 



A. No, sir; I should say not. 



Q. Where have they occurred with reference to the streams? 



A. Wherever they thought they had the best chance to steal it; for 

 instance, a man lumbering a lot of his own he is apt to get over on 

 adjoining lots; and so with the State lands, whether it is back from 

 the stream, or adjoining the stream. 



By Mr. Fieeo: 

 Q. How many " standards " to a tree ? 



A. Well, they will average about two and a half pieces to a tree ; we 

 calculate now where they cut them down to eight inches, that it takes 



