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on an average with a spruce about four and five of four pieces to one; 

 hemlock and pine runs larger; hemlock will average over twice as 

 much "to the tree as the spruce will. 



Q. This trespass of Butler w'as of the logs you spoke of that you 

 reported to the commission?, 



A. Yes, sir; as soon as I found it out. 



Frank C- Parker, being duly sworn, testified as follows: 

 By Mr. Fiero: 



Q. Where do you reside ? 



A. Keene Valley, town of Keene, Essex county. 



Q. Where is that with reference to the head waters of the Hudson ? 



A. It is about fifteen miles in an air line. 



Q. Does your district as forester embrace the head waters of the 

 Hudson ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. About what is the size of your district that you have to go over ? 



A I should say fifteen miles one way by thirty the other. 



Q. About how many acres of State land are there in it ? 



A. I should estimate close on to 100,000. 



Q. How long have you been a forester ? 



A. Since the 10th of June, 1886. 



Q. "What was your business previous to that ? 



A. I was a guide. 



Q. Did you become acquainted with the woods in that locality at 

 that time ? 



A. Yes, sir; acquainted as much as a guide could be. 



Q. What do you say in reference to your acquaintance with the 

 woods ai^the time of your appointment ? 



A. I was acquainted with the woods as much- as a guide could be. 



Q. How long have you been in that business ? 



A. About seven years. 



Q. Do you know the state of affairs in your district with reference 

 to trespasses on State land and the cutting of timber on State land 

 at the time that you were appointed when the forest commission took 

 control of the' matter? 



. A. Yes, sir; I know that there was a good deal of cutting done then 

 on State land. 



Q. Can you state to what extent ? 



A. In my own district it was done in a petty or small way; people 

 would lumber off an 160-acre lot, take off enough to build a house or 

 two, and draw it away and sell it; there were no streams where they 



