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for us to do our work in ; lie not only said that he couldn't give us 

 any, but he intimated that it was pretty likely he would turn us out 

 of this. 



By Chairman Eyan : 



t 

 Q. Have you had an intimation that you were to be turned out ? 



A. No, sir; not intimation, but he thought it likely. 



By Mr. Fiero: 



Q. You say, your duties have been confined to the Catskill; will you 

 briefly state what has been done there, for I take it that the committee 

 would be glad to know that there is something else that has engaged 

 the attention of the commission besides the Adirondacks. 



A. Won't my talk about it be too long. 



Q. I think not; it is a part of the forest preserve? 



A. I think I could make it interesting to the gentlemen and I would 

 like to have them come down there and see it in the summer time if 

 you will only hold over until that time; some time in 1886, 1 think it 

 was, our commission were invited by the supervisors of "Ulster county 

 to make a trip 'through the Catskill region to examine the lands 

 belonging to the State and certain lands belonging to the county that 

 the county proposed to turn over to the State if the forest commission 

 approved; that invitation was extended, and in addition to the super- 

 visors of the county, several other eminent gentlemen were in the 

 party and we made the trip; we were there about ten days; we had 

 two four-horse mountain wagons and four saddle horses, and the 

 bottom of the wagons filled with lunch and everything nice, all pro- 

 vided by the supervisors, and we made the trip around Slide mountain 

 and to Claryville and so around into Sullivan and Delaware counties 

 and spent quite a long time examining there;' I was the only one of the 

 commissioners that could get away to go with this party. 



By Chairman Evan: 



Q. This expedition was all fitted out for your accommodation ? 



A. For the commissioners to examine the State lands to see what 

 was best to do with them and how they were located; we had the maps 

 and we had gentlemen with us who knew all about the lands and 

 could point them out to us; I should say that in the meantime I had 

 been up to Kingston attending some meetings of the supervisors and 

 I had addressed them some two or three times, and then I went on 

 this excursion and I Was so impressed with the beauty of the Catskill 

 region, and with the fact that it was so near New York city that peo- 

 ple in moderate circumstances could go up there and take their siim- 

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