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mer outingat a very moderate expense, for at times they can get to 

 Rondout by steamboat for one dollar and fifty cents and can travel 

 through the mountains at an expense not grater than a dollar a' day, 

 that I gave that to the newspaper reporters at Kingston after I came 

 back; tyeing an old sportsman, having followed game for ovejr half a 

 century, I was deeply impressed with the fact that there was a region 

 primeval forest, a great part of which was without a deer in it, while 

 there were a great many bears and some other animals; from that 

 the idea came to me, and on some visits after that time to Kingston I 

 addressed gentlemen of. Kingston, mainly supervisors and others 

 interested ih the thing, upon the subject, and out of this came a 

 determination that we would establish a breeding park there, if we 

 could get an appropriation; I had the bill drawn up and the Legisla- 

 ture passed it, and we went on and put up a park for deer of about 

 150 acres of State lands, with a fence ten feet high, and then 

 gradually, began to get the deer in. We bought some and we 

 have had some few given us. One dote I caught myself, and we 

 bought some, and now we have a little herd there; it was not a large 

 herd, but I hadn't much money to work with, and I am happy to say 

 that all my does have bred, all have had, fawns; that is one of the 

 greatest successes in the United States with a deer park; we also 

 have a very handsome artificial lake made by damming up one of the 

 branches of the Neversink, a natural trout stream, and the Legis- 

 lature passed a bill that we should have three deer parks but they 

 only gave us appropriation enough for one^ since that time the 

 people in the Catskills, everybody, has taken a very great interest, 

 not only in the park but in everything connected, with the forest 

 commission, and those in authority have turned over to the State "a 

 great deal of land from the counties, so that now we run up pretty well 

 on to 80,000 acres and it is quite a compact body; we are not tied 

 down to deer, and I feel very much like breeding bears myself 

 becaase they are very interesting, but some wouldn't like it I 

 suppose — but I want all kinds of game; we have porcupines and we 

 have got some foxes in the deer park and can't get rid of them; we 

 have plenty of trout, and the deer thrive on the food that they find 

 there, and the number of acres is being added to there; in the town- 

 ship of Denning, in Ulster county, which is one of the most remark- 

 able townships we have, we own nearly the entire township, and in 

 that township the water shed of the Catskills takes its rise; the 

 streams run from a very near point to each other four different ways, 

 some to. the Hudson and some to the Susquehanna; we have a very 

 interesting country there; I found some few trespasses going on; we 



