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the same because they were our warden and our secretary, but of 

 course my heart was very much put out — I felt awfully about it, and 

 in fact when I was told that it was going to be done at the meeting I 

 at first said I wouldn't' go. 



Q. What was the reason for not giving you the recognition you 

 desired ? 



A. Well there was nothing to recognize after they had it all. 



Q. That is not the point; what the committee would like to know is 

 why the other two commissioners acted 'without consulting you in 

 regard to the appointments; did you ever discover why; was there 

 any conspiracy between them to freeze you out ? 



A. I 'guess that was it; I don't know; at any rate they wanted the 

 positions and they got them. 



Q. When the appointments were made by the other two com- 

 missioners, do you believe, from coming in contact with the various 

 employes, that they performed their duties faithfully; were there any 

 derelict ones among them? 



A. • No, sir; I think Mr. Garmon has done his work well, except what 

 little I have complained about, but Mr. Train could not do his duty, 

 his health was such that he was not able to do his duty. 



Q. His duty was not'perf ormed ? 



A. No, sir; not by himself, but it was done by other people; Mr. 

 Fox, who is a most superb man for an office man, the best I ever was 

 acquainted with in my life, the most complete office man, did the work 

 while Mr. Train was away sick; 'the, work was not neglected in that 

 way, for Mr. Fox did it while Mr. Train was away; Mr. Train had no 

 salary while he was away; I guess he would like to have had it 

 though, but he couldn't get it. 



QJ When the meetings were called by the commission, they were 

 called by Commissioner Basselin, or by the secretary through Mr. 

 Basselin ? 



A. Well, I know I was the chairman; I never called a meeting. 



Q. You were chairman ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



Q. With you as chairman, no meeting could be called except by 

 you speaking through the secretary ? 



A. It was this way generally; Mr. Basselin and Mr. Knevals, 

 because they were in business, and their time was precious to them, 

 and they were giving up their time to the State without pay, I would 

 tell them that I could come at any time; I would liked to have had a 

 meeting almost every day if we could; I told them I could 

 come at any time, and they would say what time it would suit; 

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