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Q. What is the method when you go there, what course do you 

 take with reference to the matter in connection with the forester, 

 with reference to trespassers ? 



A. I usually go and take the forester in the locality where the tres- 

 pass happens to be located and take also a local surveyor; it is 

 impossible, I have found, for any man that is a stranger in the locality 

 to go in any particular place and in traveling through the woods 

 learn anything about where the lot and lot lines are located, and 

 there are very few men even in the localities who can tell you ; they 

 may tell you in a general way where a man is lumbering, but they are 

 unable to tell you upon what lot he is; they may tell you in the town- 

 ship or something nearer than that; I usually go and take the forester 

 and local surveyor, drive as far as we can, so far as the roads go and 

 leaving the team then go on foot to these lots, and many of them are 

 reached sometimes with a great deal of difficulty. 



Q. What do you find with reference to lot lines, as to the locating 

 of the lines ? 



A. I find it very difficult work because they were marked many 

 years ago, some in 1811, some in 1797, and in localities which have 

 been lumbered over once ; sometimes we may run on a course for a 

 half a mile, and not find any mark of any character whatever; I have 

 in mind one case where a certain part of the lot belonged to the 

 State and very many of the State lots have been sold at tax sales, 

 part of them, for instance forty acres in the northwest quarter of a 

 certain lot, has been bid in by an individual, the rest of the lot, if it 

 is 160 acre lot may be owned by the State; now that forty acres has 

 never been run off; we often find that the individual who owns the 

 forty acres, the State owning the rest, N will begin to lumber on that 

 forty acres, he has no lines to guide him, the lot has never been run 

 out and sometimes before he is aware of it, or before we can tell what 

 he is doing, if he is reported as being on State land, we must first 

 have the State land run out and the corners to those particular lots 

 can not be determined often without beginning at a township line; as 

 I was about to say, I have in mind where we had one certain survej 

 which we had to make that we were obliged to chain a half a mile or 

 a mile from a township corner which had been established by Mr. 

 Colvin and then chain across an entire lot again another half mile 

 without any lines and spent days, we spent a whole day, a day and a 

 half I think, trying with three men; I carried the chain myself, the 

 forester carrying the other chain, and the surveyor, we spent a whole 

 day, a day and a half I think, trying to get the corner of the lot 

 which we proposed to survey before we could ascertain whether 



