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Q. Whenever any one has been sent out of the office the expenses 

 have been paid ? 

 A. I don't know about that; I think so. 

 Q. Incidental expenses of the office ? 

 A. I guess that is all. 



Redirect examination : 

 By Mr. Fiebo: 



Q. Is a record of the trespasses and the suits brought kept and if 

 so by whom ? 



A. Yes, sir; recently I have been keeping a record of the trespasses 

 and I have a register in which I keep a record of the cases that are 

 brought by myself. 



Q. With reference to this trespass of Paxton & Knapp were many 

 of these trespasses committed by men in their employ under their 

 direction ? 



A. Some of them were and some of them were for timber which 

 they had bought of other parties who were cutting independent of 

 them. 



Q. You say you have been in the woods a great many times and you 

 are not able to state about the number of times; can you give any 

 idea with reference to that matter to the committee as to the number 

 of times you have been up or the proportion of the time you spent 

 there, or the number of times you have been up in the last three or 

 four months? 



A. I couldn't give any idea of the number; during the first year tha't 

 I was appointed I spent in the woods and in the locality, with some 

 few exceptions, nearly the entire summer, and I endeavored to do the 

 work as thoroughly as ppssible so that these men, against whom 

 reports were made, couldn't question the extent or the location of the 

 trespass and, as a matter of fact, I think they never did anything to 

 this case; we tried to do the work thoroughly; we had no object par- 

 ticularly in making the examination only to protect the State interests; 

 no particular animus against these individuals, but simply to get at 

 the facts honestly and fairly, and we took whatever time was necessary 

 to do that and, in some cases, a great deal of time was necessary. 



Q. You speak of there being a financial secretary; is that the same 

 as the assistant warden ? 



A. Yes, sir.: 



Q. (Chairman Etan). — He acts in the dual capacity of assistant 



warden and financial secretary ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



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