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Q. We will go to the letters; when was the next conversation? 



A. Mr. Garmon came to my house. 



Q. When was that ? 



A. I couldn't tell you. 



Q. How soon was it after this conversation, you rode between 

 Saranac and Loon lake ? 



A. Oh, it was some time afterwards; the messages and the letter 

 would give a man an idea of when it was. ■ 



Q. How soon after that? 



A. Two months. 



Q. In the same winter ? 



A. I think so, or the same spring and summer. 



Q. The spring of 1886? 



A. Or 1887. 



Q. One of those seasons ? 



A. Tea. 



Q. At your house you say the conversation was ? 



A. Yes, sir. 



XJ. Who was present at the time ? 



A. I don't think there was anybody. 



Q. And the first conversation was at your house; when next was 

 there a conversation in regard to this matter ? 



A. I didn't say the first conversation was at my house. 



Q. The first after the ride? 



A. Yes. 



Q. That would be the second one* at your house; when was the next 

 one? , 



A. I couldn't tell you, they were pretty frequently. 



Q. Where was the next one ? 



A. Most always he came to my house. 



Q. How many times was he at your house talking about it ? 



A. Several. 



Q. How many times will you swear positively he was at your house 

 talking about this mattter ? * 



A. He was there more than four times. 



Q. Will you put it ten ? 



A. I don't think it was; it was more than four. 



Q. Was anybody present but you at any of these conversations ? 



A. My wife was there in the house; I don't know whether she ever 

 heard any of the conversation or not. 



Q. Barring your wife, anybody else ? 



A. I couldn't say. 



